[Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

[Tormentor667]

BTW, has everyone of you the problem, that not all of the DECORATE units are shown in DoomBuilder?!

[ellmo]

I don't have the problem. As far as I don't use DB, and I never use it.
end... urm, I think that hallway is nearly sexy enough.

[TheDarkArchon]

Nice work.

[Tormentor667]

@ellmo - Yes, nice work, but please avoid the usage of these recolored "TEKGREN" textures, they really don't fit into Doom1

[cyber-menace]

Good, I agree. I'm not too concerned with the extra effort it would take to make these into good DM levels but cooperative should be preserved. Everyone working on maps, make sure you add the extra start points.

Extra effort for DM? I find it a lot more effort to maintain Co-Op support... DM only requires a bunch of if (GameType () != GAME_NET_DEATHMATCH) lines and perhaps a DM only script to get a decent area picked out. I actually make my maps only DM in small sections of the stage so as to make it a good DM map pack too.

@Torm - I could help mapping, but I don't know how much good I would be. E1M9 was my first E1ish attempt at constructing anything so I may not follow your style all too well...

[Bio Hazard]

who is working on M4? it needs a lot of work

[Risen]

I have it right now, see previous page... if you can help answer any of the questions I have, please do.

DM considerations: It's easy enough to throw in some DM starts but for a map to flow correctly and play fairly in DM it takes careful positioning of items, powerups, weapons, and start spots. Cooperative is difficult, too, but it can generally follow the single-player path and only takes adjustments when the game expects there to be only one player.

Edit: Figured out where the player 1 start is supposed to go.
I also figured out that the map cannot be completed as it stands.
That leaves the question of can I rip some new areas out?

[Bio Hazard]

I have it right now,

great! you should be able to do it some good

if you can help answer any of the questions I have, please do.

um, alrighty i guess, i dont know anything about the map though

DM considerations: It's easy enough to throw in some DM starts but for a map to flow correctly and play fairly in DM it takes careful positioning of items, powerups, weapons, and start spots. Cooperative is difficult, too, but it can generally follow the single-player path and only takes adjustments when the game expects there to be only one player.

i have tried very hard to keep M9 CO-OP compatible, cause it would be a real shame to not be able to coop this wad

can I rip some new areas out?

well, if that were my desicion, i would say go for it! this map is way too huge and a lot of it is really under-detailed

[Risen]

i have tried very hard to keep M9 CO-OP compatible, cause it would be a real shame to not be able to coop this wad

can I rip some new areas out?

well, if that were my desicion, i would say go for it! this map is way too huge and a lot of it is really under-detailed

Agreed. Maybe we should test it before it's released.

Torm, the question of ripping things out is really up to you.

I can't get anything else done tonight. I think there was something wrong with the soup I had for dinner... eellg...

[Bio Hazard]

Agreed. Maybe we should test it before it's released.

destroyer and i would be happy to test it with you.
/me bumps destroyer
isint that right destroyer...

just show up in #NZDR when you can

[Kate]

Update August 28th
- Complete Resources: http://twicerisen.ath.cx/dropzone/zd1res.zip

Link is broken, someone might want to fix that.

[Bio Hazard]

yarr! been workin' all day! (OMG Bio is mapping again! )

(you can still come to #NZDR for LiveUpdates)

[Wasted Youth]

Thats All I have to say

[Kirby]

Very sexy bio, very sexy indeed

[NiGHTMARE]

Risen: ripping out the big, underdetailed areas would be fine, but I don't think you should take out the nice looking areas (i.e. the bits by nmn )