[WIP] In The Deep Earth - New Player Classes!

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Re: [WIP] In The Deep Earth - New Player Classes!

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hfc2x wrote:Looks really cool, and the maps are really well done too. I just have to wonder why 90% of the projects out there are thought for a 4:3 aspect ratio? You know, most computer screens are 16:9 these days...
Not according to Steam.
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Weird. The only person I know that uses a 4:3 display is my dad. Everyone else uses 16:9 (laptops come with that by default, and the desktop users I know use 1920x1080 res screens).
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Some Shots of what I've got going on in MAP05
Spoiler:
I've posted more info In the first post, But I'll ask here as well, Would anyone be willing to do Helen's voice acting? That's the largest chunk of what I have left to do with this.
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You could try using these values for the weapon movement:
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As of now, the movement looks like the bobbing from Alpha 5, and that is bad. Period. Also, the Tommygun as a Shotgun doesn't seem right. Anyways, that's my opinion.
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hfc2x wrote:You could try using these values for the weapon movement:
Spoiler:
As of now, the movement looks like the bobbing from Alpha 5, and that is bad. Period.
I've been experimenting alot with new stuff like Weapon.Bobstuff and what's on the first post has already changed; I'll defiantly take a look at what this does. :)

I'm also goofing around with offset, but it won't let me do things like this:

Code: Select all

offset(xpos-1,ypos-1)
it's rather frustrating.
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zrrion the insect wrote:I'm also goofing around with [wiki]offset[/wiki]
I'm guessing that the Offset keyword was implemented mostly to have HeXen compatability and not for use in mods. I concurr it's rather frustrating, as it's definitely non user friendly.

By the way, you can use the "InverseSmooth" style with the same values I posted earlier. It gives the weapon a much more realistic bobbing motion (like in more modern FPS games). Anyways, be sure to have a look at the [wiki=Weapon properties]wiki for this[/wiki].
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Mostly just code updated this time.
*I've removed the A_SetBlend from most of the weapons, and replaced it with an enhanced recoil system. (Which would be better, but A_SetZoom doesn't work with custom inventory items. :cry: )
*Grenades work like grenades now.
*Magnus's Quad shotgun was removed due to the impossibility of balancing it. It has a super BA replacement though. Magnus's sprites have also gotten swapped for this:
I wonder who this could be?
I wonder who this could be?
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though I'm still waiting on Marty Kirra for the rest of his VA, so Magnus isn't done yet.

I haven't Started on a boss yet, and I don't know what it's gonna look/act like either. I'm on a Lovecraft kick atm, so It'll probably have tentacles/be made of goo. no se.

The First post has been updated with the new Weapons+Monsters stuff, and is in a seperate .zip from the maps. I'm working on making the weapons mod half compatible with other stuff via named acs, and by preventing constant monster activation outside of ITDE. The code's getting streamlined, and redundant/vestige stuff is being removed as well.

Really all that's left is VA, and a boss.
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JimmyJ wrote:
hfc2x wrote:Looks really cool, and the maps are really well done too. I just have to wonder why 90% of the projects out there are thought for a 4:3 aspect ratio? You know, most computer screens are 16:9 these days...
Not according to Steam.
I didn't notice the date of JimmyJ's post when I originally wrote this, but I doubt things could have changed that much in only a few months.

Anyway, Steam fully supports what hfc2x says. When you tally up the result of the latest Steam hardware survey, over 50% of people use 16:9 desktop resolutions, and over 25% use 16:10 resolutions. Less than 10% use 4:3.

Here's the top 10:

10) 1360 x 768 (16:9) - 2.42%
9) 1920 x 1200 (16:10) - 3.47%
8) 1280 x 800 (16:10) - 4.41%
7) 1024 x 768 (4:3) - 5.20%
6) 1600 x 900 (16:9) - 7.24%
5) 1440 x 900 (16:10) - 7.51%
4) 1680 x 1050 (16:10) - 9.85%
3) 1280 x 1024 (5:4) - 10.04%
2) 1366 x 768 (16:9) - 18.27%
1) 1920 x 1080 (16:9) - 25.57%
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I'm working on buffing the under-powered weapons, such as the mining laser, and Helen's "ice railgun," smoothing out weapon balance in general, and trying to differentiate the player classes even more. *The Icicle can now break a frozen monster and is a lot more powerful.
*The mining laser cools faster when not being fired, and does a a tiny bit more damage.
*implementing Samsara's Flemloid deathsnot that there are flemloids...
*Magnus takes slightly less damage

I'm also experimenting with jerking the camera around when the player feels pain, similar to Quake, but it's only an approximation due to the inability to roll the camera. I'm pleased with the results since they get the job done without hindering game-play.
I've also had the idea of making a different status bar for each character. I may toy around with that at some point.
I'll probably upload a new version of the weapons half later today.
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zrrion the insect wrote:I'm working on buffing the under-powered weapons, such as the mining laser, and Helen's "ice railgun," smoothing out weapon balance in general, and trying to differentiate the player classes even more. *The Icicle can now break a frozen monster and is a lot more powerful.
*The mining laser cools faster when not being fired, and does a a tiny bit more damage.
*implementing Samsara's Flemloid deathsnot that there are flemloids...
*Magnus takes slightly less damage

I'm also experimenting with jerking the camera around when the player feels pain, similar to Quake, but it's only an approximation due to the inability to roll the camera. I'm pleased with the results since they get the job done without hindering game-play.
I've also had the idea of making a different status bar for each character. I may toy around with that at some point.
I'll probably upload a new version of the weapons half later today.
Sounds good. Intrigued to know what this deathsnot is though. Will there be new maps today or is it just weapon improvements?
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zrrion the insect wrote:...though I'm still waiting on Marty Kirra for the rest of his VA, so Magnus isn't done yet.
Egads! So many things have been piling up that I completely forgot about it. I'll try seeing if I can do something relatively soon. Sorry to keep you waiting!
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Springy wrote:Sounds good. Intrigued to know what this deathsnot is though. Will there be new maps today or is it just weapon improvements?
Woops, deathsnot was supposed to be two words, "deaths, not." As for new maps, no. I've got the mapping done, but I'm not done with haven't started the final boss, and I don't want to send out the final map until the boss is ready.
Marty Kirra wrote:Egads! So many things have been piling up that I completely forgot about it. I'll try seeing if I can do something relatively soon. Sorry to keep you waiting!
You don't have to rush. It won't hurt the game play any.

The first post's been updated with new stuff, both .ZIPs this time.
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zrrion the insect wrote: Woops, deathsnot was supposed to be two words, "deaths, not."
"Deathsnot" sounds like some kind of horrible Flemoid abomination. (not to be confused with the Flembomination)
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