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Penguinator · Post by **Penguinator** » Thu May 24, 2007 7:10 pm

Heh, I was about to post that, but laziness got the best of me and I switched the texture to the static warped lava with scroll down 50.
Another issue with the resource is that EGATE1(I think) doesn't show up right. In Doombuilder, it looks like a tan-ish teleporter pad but while testing the area with Zdoom it looks like EGATE2-4.

Nuke em · Post by **Nuke em** » Thu May 24, 2007 7:18 pm

This is odd too, but I think it has to do with zdoom's and gzdoom's (checked on both) rendering system.

That is supposed to be sky streched across the screen, but it turns grey in the middle.

Spoiler:

EDIT: Oh yeah, and why doesn't this pack have that doublebarrel plasma rifle (insanity rifle, or something like that). Wasn't it you who created it Kirby?

EDIT 2: My question is confirmed (I think). Could you include the Insanity Plasma Rifle in the next build of reasources?

Post by **Kirby** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:51 pm

@Tormentor - That's quite alright. Take all the time you need to finish it

@Nuke'em - I'll be sure to add the lavafall animation to ANIMDEFS in the next build, thanks for pointing that out.

On the subject of the insanity rifle, I sort of look back on that as a relatively bad creation. The idea is certainly fine, but to redo the weapon I would definitely need better sprites. If I could find those, then I would redo the decorate to make it more balanced and then we could add it. Until then, I think it'll stay out for now

On one of Torm's earlier suggestions, I will also be adding the Rocket Zombie to the resource. With that will also come the Cacolich, to spice up the monster variety. Beyond that, I'm going to look into one or two more monsters (most likely to come from Eriance's DE) and then a boss-type monster to add in as well. In terms of flats/textures, I may add a few more of NiGHTMARE's if they feel useful. Beyond that, the resource will be almost done. If anyone thinks we should add weapons, definitely let me know

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:27 am

I am strongly against the Cacolich... this has something to do with the drawing style of this monster. It surely looks great but I think it doesn't fit that well into the other doom monsers. Use other ones that fit better I suggest.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:41 am

If that were the case we'd have to lose a lot of our new textures, because they don't fit with the standard doom stuff at all either. I say put in whatever, as long as people will use it, it's not shit, and it's not largely unwanted by the people doing submissions.

The thing with ZDoom is that we can use things that don't look like Doom and get away with it, so surely we should be allowed to use them. Besides, it's a good monster

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:13 am

Sure it's great, but it's drawing style compared to other MRW monsters is hard on the borderline, you have to admit that :-/ I'd rather like to see some more monsters from DE that would fit better

Nothing against Vader, the monster still rocks

Post by **Vader** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:13 am

Personally I'm not too proud of the Cacolich either, so I propably won't use it if it gets included, but I don't see anything wrong with others making use of the monster.

@Kirby:
If you're including some DE monsters; what about the Bloodfiend and the Death-incarnate? I'd really like to use these in my map!

Post by **Enjay** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:28 am

Oh.

Poor cacolich.

I have to say it's one of my favourites from the MRW. I think it looks great and is a very good representation of a necrotic caco-type monster. I do agree that its style is a little different to other Doom graphics though.

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:32 am

Tormentor667 wrote:- Risen

Sorry, but I must decline for reasons that would not be of general interest in this thread.

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:15 am

I've got a couple of unfinished levels I'd be happy to donate for someone else to take and finish off, but I'm afraid I lack the inspiration to do much Doom mapping at the moment.

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:02 am

NiGHTMARE wrote:I've got a couple of unfinished levels I'd be happy to donate for someone else to take and finish off, but I'm afraid I lack the inspiration to do much Doom mapping at the moment.

Fine, send them to me and I will work on one or two of them

A Nightorm-map

You have my email ad, aight?!

Shadelight · Post by **Shadelight** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:59 pm

I would love to have the Death Incarnate and the Diabloist in the resource.

Wills · Post by **Wills** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:41 pm

The cacolich is one of the more unique monsters I've come across. Really creepy noises, a devastating acid/flame attack, and its dusty-rot appearance make it really stand out to me. It doesn't fit in with the other monsters, but that's no reason to negate its high points.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Sat May 26, 2007 6:33 am

Found a problem with the textures. The EVENT textures have broken variants, which use black as their middle colour... which means that they look like solid textures in game, even if there is a sector behind them. These need to be changed to be cyan.

Post by **Kirby** » Sat May 26, 2007 11:36 am

@Phobus - Are you referring to the vent textures? I just checked them in XWE and they appear to be using the cyan color just fine.....

@Torm - Granted, I understand where your point is coming from, but neither are we just using stock Doom textures either. It doesn't have to fit in perfectly with one persons style for it to be an asset to all persons involved in the project. We have a wide enough variety of textures to help make an environment it can fit in as well, so I think it should still be added

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