Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

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Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Zombieguy » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:02 pm

I want to play, and enjoy Hexen. But the weapons just feel too weak, there's not quite enough action, and there's hardly any "OH I'M RIGHT UP IN YO' FACE" melee combat, and more of the "pew pew"..... And not the good kind. I don't have the patience to mod Hexen. Does anyone know of any mods that give the game what it's missing?
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby ChronoSeth » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:29 pm

Hexcercise and HexenHanced are the obvious answers.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Ixnatifual » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:03 am

I actually love the Hexen weapons. With the exception of Silentus. I merely feel there are too few weapons. A couple more weapons for each class would do wonders. In total there's plenty of weapons, but you lose access to the majority of weapons by class selection. And that's fine, but there just aren't enough after that.

I kind of feel they could have spent a weapon slot on flasks and that would have made it feel like there are more weapons.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Xaser » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:51 am

Ixnatifual wrote:Silentus

While not canonically accurate, this is actually an awesome name for some reason. o_O
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Ixnatifual » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:38 am

Oh yeah, the real name is Shutitus of course :D

I guess now I'll have to add a Silentus sword to my Legend of Grimrock dungeon.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby ChronoSeth » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:55 am

The thing about Hexen is that although there are few "weapons", the game floods you with (usually) extremely powerful artifacts. In my opinion, that more than makes up for it.

Hell, you get enough discs of repulsion and flechettes that they may as well be the fifth and sixth weapons.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Zaratul » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:07 am

Btw Hexehanced works with newest svn.NeuralStunner should unlock his thread and edit first post.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Ixnatifual » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:24 am

Personally I found artifacts a mostly annoying aspect of the game.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby ChronoSeth » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:10 pm

Zaratul wrote:Btw Hexehanced works with newest svn.NeuralStunner should unlock his thread and edit first post.

Considering that the last update to the mod was about two years ago, it will probably work with 2.6.1.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Zombieguy » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:28 pm

Ixnatifual wrote:I merely feel there are too few weapons.

That's another thing. Most of the time I just hate that limited weapon crap in each class.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Ed the Bat » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:06 pm

I personally enjoyed the weapons, monsters (though I find fighting Centaurs a bit tedius at times), and overall atmosphere. But I HATE the stock mapsets in vanilla Hexen and Deathkings of the Dark Citadel. They're essentially entirely scour-and-guess switch-hunts spread over entire hubs of maps. I'm way too dumb to be able to crack them in a reasonable manner. Thankfully, there's a few truly excellent custom adventures/mapsets that fit my style much better, which make for a chance to enjoy the game a lot more.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby NeuralStunner » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:03 pm

The only time I've beaten Hexen in total was in coop. It's more enjoyable that way, I think. (Although H2 kicks its arse in almost every way.)

Zaratul wrote:Btw Hexehanced works with newest svn.NeuralStunner should unlock his thread and edit first post.
HH is dead. Because it was horrible.

There may or may not be a successor in progress. I probably shouldn't say any more. :ninja:
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Zombieguy » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:04 pm

NeuralStunner wrote:H2 kicks its arse in almost every way.

Nah.

NeuralStunner wrote:HH is dead. Because it was horrible.

Nah. :P
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby ChronoSeth » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:47 pm

Ed the Bat wrote:I personally enjoyed the weapons, monsters (though I find fighting Centaurs a bit tedius at times), and overall atmosphere. But I HATE the stock mapsets in vanilla Hexen and Deathkings of the Dark Citadel. They're essentially entirely scour-and-guess switch-hunts spread over entire hubs of maps. I'm way too dumb to be able to crack them in a reasonable manner. Thankfully, there's a few truly excellent custom adventures/mapsets that fit my style much better, which make for a chance to enjoy the game a lot more.

I really don't understand this complaint. The maps are basically doom or quake, just on a larger scale. :?

Not to mention that all of the switch-puzzles have somewhere which allows you to track your progress, except for the Seven Portals (I will admit the first hub is just terrible). The rest just needs exploration and actually paying attention to the messages you're given.
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Re: Hexen: Wanna love it, but can't

Postby Ed the Bat » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:51 pm

ChronoSeth wrote: The maps are basically doom or quake, just on a larger scale. :?

Can't say I really see that one, sorry. Doom has a very 'Point A to Point B' layout. Hexen, on the other hand, will have you pull a switch, which changes something in one of the other six levels of the hub, with usually no hints, except for something like 'Stairs have risen' in rare instances. No other discernable connections, or reasons to suspect why one switch affects whatever geographical shifts elsewhere in the hub.

To be fair, though, the majority of my experiences come from Seven Portals, so I may be missing something better in places I didn't see.
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