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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:28 pm
by Deon
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While I like the shape of it, when I put the weapon in the game it looks out of place with other custom weapons. I think it's something about those black lines being more prominent on Doom-style weapons. Can someone help me improve the sprite and DOOM-ify it, or give a useful suggestion what can be done to make it more Doomey?

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:26 am
by bimshwel
It does look a bit more Blake Stone than Doom, but I happen to like the cartoony science fiction aesthetic. I think what might help it, though, is it being lit more from the center rather than the right, since in-world light sources will be all over the place. Except when it fires; the flash should largely override other lighting. Or I think it should, anyway. I can still see that it is lit from the right in the middle sprite here, rather than from where the little explosion is.

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:32 am
by Captain J
Yeah it looks quite contrast-y and bright-y, but sucha cool gun nonetheless!

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:11 am
by Deon
Thank you, it is some very sound advice! I really appreciate it, especially coming from legends like you.

So if I got it right:
- Darker palette
- Shift light source
- Fix gunflash to light gun differently from main light source.

This is what I got so far, is it an improvement or going in a wrong direction?

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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:12 am
by Enjay
It's certainly much more Doomy. Though, as an obvious consequence, it has lost the cartoony Blake Stone sci-fi kitsch look. Both have their uses but I suspect the new, darker one is indeed much more useful.

Reminds me of Deckard's pistol in Blade Runner.

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:32 am
by Deon
It is exactly that pistol, based on 3d render from sketchfab

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:11 am
by Enjay
Then, to me, that's worth a few bonus points alone. I love that film and that pistol. :biggrin:

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:58 pm
by Deon
Thank you for the encouragement. I've played some more with contrast and details, and I think I like it as is. Time to work on proper flash and reload sprites.

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:18 pm
by Deon
And my first ever "my own gun from scratch" is done. Give me a birthday cake :D.

I hope reload animation makes sense.


Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:29 pm
by Enjay
Very nice indeed.

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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:05 pm
by Deon
Thank you! That is a nice looking cake. Almost as good as the cake on some of old Scalliano's sprites.

If someone wants to get cut/offset sprites, you can get them in PK3 format in the description of my demo video
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:00 am
by Captain J
It just got better! And gotta say that muzzle flash sprite looks neat

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:27 am
by Deon
One improvement I can think of is spinning the bullet cilinder between shots.

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:32 am
by Xim
That's an awesome pistol Deon. I've only watched Blade Runner maybe once, but I know that gun from the first two Fallout games, which copied the design for the 223 pistol. (edit: the later games renamed it, 'That Gun')

I was digging through my sprite dump folder and found a little edit I did a while ago, might as well share it.

Just a sideview edit made from the recoil frame from obtic's BFG. I probably won't continue on it, but if anyone wants to use it for whatever they can go ahead.

Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:17 am
by bimshwel
THERE is a gun I recognize, the Sonic P300 Booster. Very interesting to see that from another angle! I was one of evidently a few people who totally ripped off the flame thrower sprite from Obituary and put it into something else that got uploaded to the idgames archive, eons ago, annoying the guy who drew it originally, Thomas Möller, I believe. My custom additions weren't nearly this well-executed or noteworthy.