[SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby neoworm » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:28 am

I think discussing ripping stuff from other games on a forum that features multiple one to one remakes of older games is kinda mute. Ion Maiden was kinda special case in my eyes because you can probably recreate the complete game experience in GZDooM and seriously hurt any potential sales of the game itself since it's not even out yet. You can hardly do the same with DooM Eternal or Scorn. Remaking the guns in sprite format is just kinda cuteand it's going to happen anyway.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Vostyok » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:40 pm

It was more the fact that some people were referring to Ion Maiden as a big bucket of assets rather than a commercial project not even in the download stage.

Remaking a game is one thing. Using assets intended to promote an upcoming project is another. Regardless of intent, a hobbyist's innocent recreations can also legitimately be seen by others as "stealing".
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Captain J » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:18 pm

You two have a point there. At least it's different and also count as tribute... So yeah.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby REXMaster » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:43 pm

Now just working on a doom 4 monsters for Gmod. Don't forgotted zdoom and will finish full set.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby ramon.dexter » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:15 am

Vostyok wrote:It was more the fact that some people were referring to Ion Maiden as a big bucket of assets rather than a commercial project not even in the download stage.


Oh, for god's sake, that was a JOKE!
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby JadedLexi » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:20 am

ramon.dexter wrote:
Vostyok wrote:It was more the fact that some people were referring to Ion Maiden as a big bucket of assets rather than a commercial project not even in the download stage.


Oh, for god's sake, that was a JOKE!

No, it really wasn't.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Arctangent » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:24 am

JadedLexi wrote:
ramon.dexter wrote:
Vostyok wrote:It was more the fact that some people were referring to Ion Maiden as a big bucket of assets rather than a commercial project not even in the download stage.


Oh, for god's sake, that was a JOKE!

No, it really wasn't.

Even if it was, "it was a joke" is nothing more than a statement, not an excuse nor a justification. In fact, it not only doesn't at all protect a person from any flak they get from what they said, but usually makes it worse because it just makes them look like a twat that mocks others without the slightest bit of empathy.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Assassin of Purity » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:58 am

Ion Maiden re-used assets?
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Captain J » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:35 am

This is kinda getting awkward here...
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Caligari87 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:21 am

Assassin of Purity wrote:Ion Maiden re-used assets?

Not sure where you got that from, but no, not to my knowledge.

The problem was people saying "woo new resources to rip!" when the game hasn't even been properly released yet. Considering A) it's a commercial project, and B) some authors of the game are alumni of this and other classic gaming communities, that's a real slap in the face to the developers, just looking at their project as a free-to-use resource dump.

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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Vegeta(dw) » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:17 pm

An idea that jumped into my mind
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby CWolf » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:53 pm

single boomstick sprite to surpass Metal Gear Pillow

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Tip of the day: do not let me be triggered by any person for drawing somewhat over their stocks.

Credits for Antares for his stock photo of SPAS-12 in his hand.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Assassin of Purity » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:24 pm

Caligari87 wrote:
Assassin of Purity wrote:Ion Maiden re-used assets?

Not sure where you got that from, but no, not to my knowledge.

The problem was people saying "woo new resources to rip!" when the game hasn't even been properly released yet. Considering A) it's a commercial project, and B) some authors of the game are alumni of this and other classic gaming communities, that's a real slap in the face to the developers, just looking at their project as a free-to-use resource dump.

8-)

Ooh. Well someone said something about Ion Maiden being a big bucket of assets. I assumed they meant that it took assets from others.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby Dark-Assassin » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:15 pm

They should just make it so that their assets can't be legally used in other games.
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Re: [SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

Postby InsanityBringer » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:22 pm

i mean they are already copyrighted, and neither voidpoint or 3d realms has granted a license for use outside of the game, so this is already the case. it's just that the people who wanted to rip all these resources simply don't care. Voidpoint/3DR (whoever owns the rights to the game's resources) have the legal rights to go after anyone who does so.
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