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zdoom's midi system (percussion too loud?)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:11 pm
by Virgil
I'm using Creative S/W Synth as my device and tried Creative SB Live! as midi device. Both seem ok, but their percussion is WAY too loud. I can't hear the piano/organ/strings/etc. Is there any way for me to turn down the volume on just the percussion? I love to listen to numerous doom midi tunes while playing zdoom and this is really ruining the experience for me.

P.S. My old win95 computer has an old crappy midi card and it makes midis sound much better than my win98 O/S with my new sound card. Can you say "sound card manufacturers don't give a shit about midi"?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 8:36 pm
by HotWax
SB Live! midi sounds just fine to me.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:37 pm
by Virgil
Nm, problem fixed. I installed timidity for zdoom and then dl-ed Eaw patches for GUS. Now it sounds a lot more like my old computer's midi.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:58 pm
by Virgil
There's however one thing that I don't like when using timidity in zdoom. Most doom songs are designed to be looped without the pause at the end. Is there any way to get rid of the pause that timidity makes before restarting the song?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:23 am
by Kappes Buur
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Didn't Randy scrub Timidity quite some time ago, and now uses FMOD instead?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:27 am
by arioch
Virgil wrote:There's however one thing that I don't like when using timidity in zdoom. Most doom songs are designed to be looped without the pause at the end. Is there any way to get rid of the pause that timidity makes before restarting the song?

Sure is. Disable Timidity.
Kappes Buur wrote:Didn't Randy scrub Timidity quite some time ago, and now uses FMOD instead?

No, he added Timidity support way after fmod to support MIDI on Linux systems.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:57 am
by Chilvence
It took me 3 months after getting this audigy 2 to find out that the h/w midi synth used exactly the same patches as the ones I had downloaded for timidity...

Anyway, if the midi is really bad, cant you just go around looking for soundfonts to use? Im sure theres some control panel in the SB live that allows you to load a custom s.f.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:26 pm
by Virgil
Aren't sound fonts used in custom midi files to make them sound more wave-like? Or can they actually modify how midi sounds on your system in general? I've loaded lots of sound fonts I dl-ed on my SB Live but it didn't make the doom music (or even midi music) sound any different.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:28 pm
by Virgil
I'm not disabling timidity if it sounds better than whatever half-assed midi emulation my SB Live has. It isn't the best option, but it improves the atmosphere of gameplay when you can actually hear the strings/piano/low menacing bass instead of loud, obnoxious percussion and high-treble.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:43 pm
by Chris
Try checking for trebble and bass controls in the volume control dialog(you'll probably have to enable the Advanced buttons if you haven't already) under the MIDI sliders.