Game-data paths on Mac?

[doomseal]

I'm trying to get Raze 1.1.2 up and running, but I can't seem to find where to put the .grp and .ssi files on a Mac.

The Wiki says "Game files should be placed in your Library folder" but the Library folder is a big place with many subfolders. The "Getting build games to work" thread has relative paths, but no base other than "your raze folder."

I've tried many different folders but it always says "unable to find any game data."

Can anyone point me to the right documentation page or the correct folder path?

[_mental_]

https://github.com/coelckers/Raze/issues/434

[doomseal]

Thanks for that information. I've used zdoom/gzdoom for years now and didn't even think of looking in the INI file. Honestly, I didn't think it would exist yet since Raze had never finished starting up.

I found the Raze.ini file, and put duke3d.grp and duke.rts into several of the folders listed there, and it still won't find them. These are retail files copied off the CDs. They work great on the Windows box, but the two Macs just won't find them. I have both atomic edition 1.5 and 1.3d, neither works.

I tried both the all-caps filenames favored by the CD filesystem and all-lower. is there a specific capitalization it needs? What am I still missing?

(Maybe this needs moved to the Bugs forum? I thought the issue was just me not knowing the correct paths.)

The main system I'm using is an "iMac19,2 running macOS Big Sur 10.16.0 (20F71) 64-bit Intel"

[_mental_]

There is no bug here, it works for me just fine. It doesn't matter how many Macs cannot find the data if their users copied files to wrong locations.

Open Terminal, do ls -lR ~/Documents/Raze command there, and post its output.

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drwxr-xr-x  47 user  staff   1504 Nov 14  2020 Blood
drwxrwxrwx  19 user  staff    608 May 16 11:14 NAM
drwxr-xr-x   3 user  staff     96 May 14 17:46 Screenshots
drwxrwxrwx  29 user  staff    928 May 16 11:14 WW2GI
-rw-r--r--   1 user  staff  13270 May 14 18:11 raze.ini

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Blood:
total 217680
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   9570681 Feb  1  2020 BLOOD.RFF
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-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff      9750 Feb  1  2020 PatchNotes.txt
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1142272 Feb  1  2020 SDL2.dll
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff     24574 Feb  1  2020 TILES016.ART
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff     10647 Feb  1  2020 TILES017.ART
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   5994284 Feb  1  2020 TimGM6mb.sf2
drwxrwxrwx   3 user  staff        96 Nov 14  2020 addons
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   5528064 Feb  1  2020 anuket_x64.exe
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff     13092 Feb  1  2020 blood.ini
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   5063285 Feb  1  2020 blood02.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   6723012 Feb  1  2020 blood03.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2821642 Feb  1  2020 blood04.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   4399795 Feb  1  2020 blood05.ogg
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-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   3170175 Feb  1  2020 blood07.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2743486 Feb  1  2020 blood08.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2040006 Feb  1  2020 blood09.ogg
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff       758 Feb  1  2020 commit.dat
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff    302080 Feb  1  2020 fluidsynth.dll
drwxrwxrwx  13 user  staff       416 Nov 14  2020 movie
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff  28552775 Feb  1  2020 sounds.rff
drwxrwxrwx   4 user  staff       128 Nov 14  2020 src
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff    289568 Feb  1  2020 steam_api64.dll
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff      4096 Feb  1  2020 surface.dat
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff      8448 Feb  1  2020 tables.dat
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1881007 Feb  1  2020 tiles000.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1672613 Feb  1  2020 tiles001.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1001125 Feb  1  2020 tiles002.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff    960629 Feb  1  2020 tiles003.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1647911 Feb  1  2020 tiles004.art
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-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1330026 Feb  1  2020 tiles007.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff    710506 Feb  1  2020 tiles008.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1644888 Feb  1  2020 tiles009.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2762914 Feb  1  2020 tiles010.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2062428 Feb  1  2020 tiles011.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1887569 Feb  1  2020 tiles012.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1474846 Feb  1  2020 tiles013.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   2009595 Feb  1  2020 tiles014.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff   1811110 Feb  1  2020 tiles015.art
-rw-rw-rw-   1 user  staff      8192 Feb  1  2020 voxel.dat

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Blood/addons:
total 0
drwxrwxrwx  21 user  staff  672 Nov 14  2020 Cryptic Passage

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Blood/addons/Cryptic Passage:
total 20184
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   327015 Feb  1  2020 CP01.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   295323 Feb  1  2020 CP02.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   190223 Feb  1  2020 CP03.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   250535 Feb  1  2020 CP04.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   233263 Feb  1  2020 CP05.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   234907 Feb  1  2020 CP06.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   185115 Feb  1  2020 CP07.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   219087 Feb  1  2020 CP08.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   405263 Feb  1  2020 CP09.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    95623 Feb  1  2020 CPBB01.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   115979 Feb  1  2020 CPBB02.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    64987 Feb  1  2020 CPBB03.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   132547 Feb  1  2020 CPBB04.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   110839 Feb  1  2020 CPSL.MAP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     4035 Feb  1  2020 CRYPTIC.INI
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  2922915 Feb  1  2020 CRYPTIC.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     1948 Feb  1  2020 CrypticPassage.kpf
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  1170729 Feb  1  2020 tiles007.ART
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  3335444 Feb  1  2020 tiles015.ART

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Blood/movie:
total 94512
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  4897650 Feb  1  2020 ATARI.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  4686087 Feb  1  2020 CS1.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  4759611 Feb  1  2020 CS2.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  5462738 Feb  1  2020 CS3.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  3762450 Feb  1  2020 CS4.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  6235616 Feb  1  2020 CS5.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  5682972 Feb  1  2020 CS6.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   427442 Feb  1  2020 GTI.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  3309965 Feb  1  2020 Kex.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  1394489 Feb  1  2020 MONOLITH.ogv
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  7745454 Feb  1  2020 NightDive.ogv

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Blood/src:
total 856
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   26010 Feb  1  2020 LGPLv2.1.txt
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  406620 Feb  1  2020 fluidsynth-src.zip

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/NAM:
total 90368
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff         4 Feb  1  2020 CDROM.INI
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff       735 Feb  1  2020 COMMIT.DAT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     76554 Feb  1  2020 COMMIT.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    265396 Feb  1  2020 DOS4GW.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    142803 Feb  1  2020 GAME.CON
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff        47 Feb  1  2020 GTGAMES.URL
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff       662 Feb  1  2020 INSTALL.LOG
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      8371 Feb  1  2020 LICENSE.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      4126 Feb  1  2020 MODEM.PCK
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      5722 Feb  1  2020 NAM.CFG
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   1040467 Feb  1  2020 NAM.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  43448927 Feb  1  2020 NAM.GRP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff       766 Feb  1  2020 NAM.ICO
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    564926 Feb  1  2020 NAM.RTS
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     39751 Feb  1  2020 NAMHELP.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    589110 Feb  1  2020 SETMAIN.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     37853 Feb  1  2020 SETUP.EXE

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/Screenshots:
total 5144
-rw-r--r--  1 user  staff  2631899 May 14 17:46 Blood_0000.png

/Users/user/Documents/Raze/WW2GI:
total 231600
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff        13 Feb  1  2020 CDROM.INI
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff       735 Feb  1  2020 COMMIT.DAT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     76554 Feb  1  2020 COMMIT.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    265396 Feb  1  2020 DOS4GW.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      2639 Feb  1  2020 ENHANCE.CON
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    162364 Feb  1  2020 GAME.CON
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff        47 Feb  1  2020 GTGAMES.URL
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff       866 Feb  1  2020 INSTALL.LOG
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      8371 Feb  1  2020 LICENSE.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      4126 Feb  1  2020 MODEM.PCK
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff        60 Feb  1  2020 PLATOONL.BAT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  37852572 Feb  1  2020 PLATOONL.DAT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff        87 Feb  1  2020 PLATOONL.DEF
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      6623 Feb  1  2020 PLATOONL.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      5561 Feb  1  2020 README.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    605491 Feb  1  2020 SETMAIN.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     37853 Feb  1  2020 SETUP.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     24265 Feb  1  2020 UNSTALL.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     46445 Feb  1  2020 USER.CON
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-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff   1078643 Feb  1  2020 WW2GI.EXE
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff  77939508 Feb  1  2020 WW2GI.GRP
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff      6454 Feb  1  2020 WW2GI.ICO
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff    259214 Feb  1  2020 WW2GI.RTS
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     41012 Feb  1  2020 WW2HELP.TXT
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     31013 Feb  1  2020 XDEFS.CON
-rw-rw-rw-  1 user  staff     46527 Feb  1  2020 XUSER.CON


[doomseal]

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[~] $ ls -lR ~/Documents/Raze/                                                 
total 87024                                                                     
-rwxr-xr-x  1 doomseal  staff    188954 Dec 11  1996 DUKE.RTS*                 
-rwxr-xr-x  1 doomseal  staff  44356548 Dec 11  1996 DUKE3D.GRP*               
-rw-r--r--  1 doomseal  staff        93 Jun 22 21:15 raze.log                   


I've tried it with the names both all-caps and all-lowercase and it doesn't work either way.

On my Catalina machine, I got it to run if I launched raze from the terminal, when the working directory (.) contained the GRP files. Launching it from Finder/Spotlight doesn't find the data files on either machine.

EDIT: Seems that if I run it from my home directory, it manages to find the GRP files. Weird that the working directory has to be ~ to work.

[doomseal]

Sorry for the double post, but I got it to work.

In the INI file, most of the directory paths end with /*. This means look in any subdirectories of this directory, not in the directory itself. So, as the other thread suggests, put the files in a 'data' subdirectory of any of the directories listed in the ini file.

Thanks for the assistance, and sorry if I was a bit dense.