List of files needed for each game?

List of files needed for each game?

Postby JPL » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:01 pm

I have old CDs / installs of some of the Build engine games, and I'd like to fire those up with Raze. I'd rather copy over only the files Raze needs, eg not Blood's copy of DOS4GW.EXE and whatever. ScummVM has a page that lists the files it needs for each supported game, is there anything comparable for the games Raze supports?
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Graf Zahl » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:24 am

It's a bit tricky because some of these games keep their movies on the CD.
Aside from that, for all games except Blood, all you need is the .GRP files, the intro movies for Redneck Rides Again and Powerslave/Exhumed and the CD Audio music for RR, SW and Exhumed. In the case of NAM, though, the main .CON file is not in the . GRP and also needs to be copied, but that's the only exception here.

For Blood, NBlood has a list of needed files here: https://github.com/nukeykt/NBlood That doesn't include the movies and CD Audio, though, which need to be copied separately.
For Duke World Tour I recommend not messing with it at all, it's too easy to delete some necessary files.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Gez » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:53 pm

The GOG distribution of Twin Dragon is a bunch of loose files in a /dragon/ subfolder of the Shadow Warrior Complete installation. Raze doesn't detect it, since it expects a TWINDRAG.GRP file. It might be worth it to add a specialcasing of it like there are for Cryptic Passage and Route 66.

That question comes up often enough that I've included the info on the Raze article, though it probably needs some double-checking.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Phredreeke » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:25 pm

TWINDRAG.GRP? For me it's named TD.GRP (which I got from SW Classic Redux)
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Graf Zahl » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:15 am

The one I got was named twindrag.grp, dated 2007-09-18. Apparently there's both names floating around, not to mention the messy folder based option in the GOG release.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Alexandra » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

I started using Raze last week and would have created this topic if JP had not. I was surprised how little setup documentation there was so far.

For anyone wondering about Shadow Warrior Twin Dragon, this seems to be working: TD.grp and tdcustom.txt in main SW folder, and a /dragon subfolder with the rest of its .MAP/.VOC/.ANIM etc. files. (I assume twindrag.grp would work the same way.) As for Wanton Destruction, just WT.GRP , wtcustom.txt, and Wanton.dat are in the main SW folder, with no subfolders needed. [updated as per Graf's comment]

Duke3D Atomic Edition's expansions seem to work fine if you put dukedc.grp, nwinter.grp, and vacation.grp in the main Duke3D Atomic Edition folder, and the expansions' other files in dc, nw, and vacation subfolders.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Graf Zahl » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:24 pm

The main problem with the documentation is that we do not know what distributions exist. The only usable one as reference is the one from GOG - this one should work out of the box if Raze can find the GOG install path. This one already contains both add-ons.

For the add-ons with other installations all you need is to copy the wt.grp and twindrag.grp files into your SW folder - you do not need any additional files, i.e. no ??custom.txt or any .dat files.
Why is there no list of files? Well, because the assumption is that you install the game somewhere and either put the Raze files into the same folder or set up the search path. Even though it is possible, it is generally not recommended to pick the installations apart.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Frederick Bladdleson » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:57 am

I see. Some users like to consolidate apps/games into neat folders/subfolders and preserve disk space, so that's been my motivation. Got them pretty trimmed down now.

re: available releases
I have access to all the Steam releases; let me know if complete filelists would be helpful.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Alexandra » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:59 am

[oops, got logged out and submitted this reply anon at first.]
I see. Some users like to consolidate apps/games into neat folders/subfolders and preserve disk space, so that's been my motivation. Got them pretty trimmed down now.

re: available distributions
I have access to all the Steam releases; let me know if complete filelists would be helpful.

Edit: come to think of it, it would take some digging, but I also have '90s retail discs for Duke Atomic, SW, Blood, and (heh) TekWar / Witchaven. I wouldn't be surprised if some ISOs are on archive dot org, too.
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Re: List of files needed for each game?

Postby Graf Zahl » Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:44 am

'Yes, there's lots of versions available. But we are not that concerned about optimizing storage. The important thing is that users can install the game and then point the search path to these folders.
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