Raze compatibilty with DN3D expansion Penthouse Paradise

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Raze compatibilty with DN3D expansion Penthouse Paradise

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I know that Penthouse Paradise often gets shafted because of the porn in it, however the level had some really good design for time and it was released as an official expansion (grp) with the Zoom platform release of Duke Nukem 3D.

So my question is, will we ever get compatibility with Raze?

BTW there seems to be some bugs with with the map, however if anyone wants to try it out they can check the bugfix here ---> https://forums.duke4.net/topic/11612-pe ... ntry358606.

Anyways thanks for the answer in advance and I gotta say Raze is shaping up to be a very nice sourceport! I'm very excited for the future of Raze.
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I'm pretty sure it should work out of the box. But you have to load it like a usermap, it's not gonna appear in the game selection box; the .grp extension is not the same thing as an IWAD for Doom games.
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The good thing is, if you place it into a directory where the engine looks and a proper grpinfo record alongside, it will be listed in the startup.
But considering the porn related content I'd rather not add official support for it.
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Duke!zone 2 and Duke Xtreme were also advertised as "official" addons and no port is supporting them natively. Other than that Penthouse level, those were also really shitty.
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EDuke32 does have CRCs for Duke!Zone 2 and Raze has copied those. Is there any need for more?
Agreed, though, that they are really shitty.
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Duke!zone 2 and Duke Xtreme were really shitty I agree.

While the Penthouse had porn, honestly the image quality of the sprites was so bad that it was really bizarre and comical rather than titillating at all. It was the equivalent of porn mods for Skyrim at the time I guess. Also honestly compared to some of the original Duke Nukem levels (like the porn studio) I though it was rather tame in that regard.

Anyways, the level is still in my opinion a banger. For the time of release of course. You can tell the people involved actually cared further than just making a room and dropping a bunch of nude girls on it. There was a rime and flow to the level that made it fairly competent. Also that final fight at the end in the tight pool was pretty harsh if I remember correctly.+

Still I can understand the position of not including it.

Thanks for the response :)
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I played it recently and I don't recall any porn per se, just badly paletted and pixelated nudity. The level itself is decent, but kind of pointless as it isn't part of any episodes.
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I have to correct myself: EDuke32 does support DZ2, just like Raze. However, it doesn't mean you should disgrace all the other good groupfiles you can load instead by playing this instead.

Curiously enough, there is a de-porned version of PP in the Steam workshop of WT. Might even be better than the original since those babe sprites were really poorly converted and don't really blend in with the general art style of the game.
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NightFright wrote:I have to correct myself: EDuke32 does support DZ2, just like Raze. However, it doesn't mean you should disgrace all the other good groupfiles you can load instead by playing this instead.

Curiously enough, there is a de-porned version of PP in the Steam workshop of WT. Might even be better than the original since those babe sprites were really poorly converted and don't really blend in with the general art style of the game.
Huh, I'm gonna have to check it out later then! Yeah those "real life" porn sprites were pretty bad.
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Just letting those who care know that we added native support for Penthouse Paradise into the engine, so the game's grp file should be detected just like Vacation, Nuclear Winter, DukeDC etc.
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Graf Zahl wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 12:01 pm EDuke32 does have CRCs for Duke!Zone 2 and Raze has copied those. Is there any need for more?
Agreed, though, that they are really shitty.
It would be nice if this were added to the list of supported games on the wiki. It was previously included in the delisted Steam version that game with the Apogee Throwback Pack, and available on its own.

https://steamdb.info/app/359850/
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Gen5lock131 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:18 am Penthouse Paradise often gets shafted because of the porn
Said with total lack of irony - isn't English wonderful :P
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Death Mage wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:39 pm It would be nice if this were added to the list of supported games on the wiki. It was previously included in the delisted Steam version that game with the Apogee Throwback Pack, and available on its own.

https://steamdb.info/app/359850/
Wrong thread

That said, I don't think anyone is in a rush to add links to releases that are no longer available.
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