Demon Eclipse Mod Thread - New Beta Up-Testers needed. p. 1

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:48 pm

Sniper joe wrote:Thanks! Ill credit you if I ever release it. (Or anything... O_o)

Release what?

Cptschrodinger · Post by **Cptschrodinger** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:13 pm

Whatever I might make with them of course. Sorry if I sounded odd.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:48 am

I have a small question for the Zdoom community. Is there someone that can compose a midi/mus file from a mp3? I found this mp3 that i would like to use for boss fights, but i hate using OGG formats cuz it makes the wad humungous. I dont want to make people download some huge file when it's just music.

If so, please send me a note if you are interested in turning a wave-format file into midi.

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:45 pm

Those people who've been complainining about "huge" file sizes in regards to certain Doom wads seriously need to wake up to the 21st century

. Even a couple of hundred megs would be absolutely nothing when it comes to modern hard drives and internet connections.

I know there are a few unfortunates stuck with older hardware for whatever reason, but they are growing to be such a tiny minority that catering to their needs isn't really neccessary any more.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:02 pm

NiGHTMARE wrote:Those people who've been complainining about "huge" file sizes in regards to certain Doom wads seriously need to wake up to the 21st century . Even a couple of hundred megs would be absolutely nothing when it comes to modern hard drives and internet connections.

I know there are a few unfortunates stuck with older hardware for whatever reason, but they are growing to be such a tiny minority that catering to their needs isn't really neccessary any more.

This is doom. It's not meant to be huge. Plus, seems like a awfuly waste of time and space when most of the space taken is due to the music. Game should focus on the game, so the majority of the game should be stuff that effects gameplay and not the sounds itself, as long as it doesn't sound god awful.

BetaSword · Post by **BetaSword** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:01 am

.Oggs making it huge? Have you tried changing the copression rate? Cause I know I've been able to get several MP3's down to very small sizes using .ogg. I mean, unless it's a really detailed song that doesn't compress well, I don't see how it would add horribly to the size...

Just my opinion.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:21 am

BetaSword wrote:.Oggs making it huge? Have you tried changing the copression rate? Cause I know I've been able to get several MP3's down to very small sizes using .ogg. I mean, unless it's a really detailed song that doesn't compress well, I don't see how it would add horribly to the size...

Just my opinion.

that just makes it sound like crap. Like something from an old radio.

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:38 am

Eriance wrote: This is doom. It's not meant to be huge.

My entire point is that 50 megs or whatever *isn't* huge. It certainly would have been almost a decade and a half ago when Doom was originally released, but in this day and age a "huge" file is one that's a gigabyte or more. To my knowledge no Doom wad, either existing or currently in production, even begins to approach that kind of size.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:47 pm

NiGHTMARE wrote:
Eriance wrote: This is doom. It's not meant to be huge.
My entire point is that 50 megs or whatever *isn't* huge. It certainly would have been almost a decade and a half ago when Doom was originally released, but in this day and age a "huge" file is one that's a gigabyte or more. To my knowledge no Doom wad, either existing or currently in production, even begins to approach that kind of size.

Yes, 50 megs is not huge. I dont drisagree with that at all. Hpowever, 50 megs for doom is not worth it, tus making it big. There is no point in making people download 50+ megs for a doom mod when 90% of it is from ogg files.

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:10 pm

But why not, when nowadays the majority of people can download a 50 meg file in less time than it would have taken to download a 0.5 meg file 10 years ago? Considering I've had a 'net connection for almost 10 years myself, I remember those days well

.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:24 pm

NiGHTMARE wrote:But why not, when nowadays the majority of people can download a 50 meg file in less time than it would have taken to download a 0.5 meg file 10 years ago? Considering I've had a 'net connection for almost 10 years myself, I remember those days well .

Because this isn't a music wad. I'm not going to make people download 50 megs worth of music and no game. Plus, the Midi drivers on most peoples machines can make midis that sound better than a compress mp3. The focus is on the game. If the game isn't taking 50 megs, then i'm not gonna make people download 50 megs.

Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:24 am

Just make a seperate music WAD so that everybody wins.

Amuscaria · Post by **Amuscaria** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:27 am

TheDarkArchon wrote:Just make a seperate music WAD so that everybody wins.

yeha, I was thinking about that. What kinda format does Zdoom play? OGG and Mp3?

Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:37 am

They both work. I can't remember the full list

Giest118 · Post by **Giest118** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:03 pm

I think it helps if you just put it into perspective.
Contained in this spoiler tag is a visual representation of today's memory vs. a wad file with an ogg in it. The white space is free memory, and the black space is memory taken up by the wad and its ogg.

Spoiler:

EDIT: On second thought, the image should have been something more like 3000x3000...

Demon Eclipse Mod Thread - New Beta Up-Testers needed. p. 1

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