Classic Hexen Gibbet Glitch

Classic Doom Guy · Post by **Classic Doom Guy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:09 pm

I've been pouring over the internet, and can't find a solution to avoiding the throne-room glitch in the gibbet.

I've tried a bunch of different actions, and sometimes the dragons don't even appear, let alone the priests or the heiresiarch.

Somewhere on this board I saw a thread about editing it out, and there was even the line of code present in the thread. I used the search function and it didn't come up that I could tell.

Does anybody know how to avoid this glitch or how to fix it? I can't cheat because I'm on the hardest setting.

Post by **Kirby** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:37 pm

I had the same problem a while ago, and the solution that I used was simply noclipping thru the walls on the left and right to kill the bishops. Once they die, the next script DOES indeed execute and you can continue.

Unfortunately, there is no way around the bug, so noclipping is probably the best solution

Zippy · Post by **Zippy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:42 pm

Classic Doom Guy wrote:I can't cheat because I'm on the hardest setting.

You can cheat on nightmare mode by enabling it with the sv_cheats cvar.

1. Save
2. Bring down the console
3. sv_cheats true
4. Load
5. Cheat

Anakin S. · Post by **Anakin S.** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:40 pm

Kirby wrote:I had the same problem a while ago, and the solution that I used was simply noclipping thru the walls on the left and right to kill the bishops. Once they die, the next script DOES indeed execute and you can continue.

Unfortunately, there is no way around the bug, so noclipping is probably the best solution

The thread actually describes the solution. You have to change one of the scripts.

In script 13,

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until(thingcount(T_DEMON, 0) == 3)

Graf Zahl wrote:No, it should read '<=3' to achieve what it wants.

Or you could try again and leave 3 serpents alive until the walls open up.

Classic Doom Guy · Post by **Classic Doom Guy** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:00 am

Anakin S. wrote:
Kirby wrote:I had the same problem a while ago, and the solution that I used was simply noclipping thru the walls on the left and right to kill the bishops. Once they die, the next script DOES indeed execute and you can continue.

Unfortunately, there is no way around the bug, so noclipping is probably the best solution
The thread actually describes the solution. You have to change one of the scripts.

In script 13,
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until(thingcount(T_DEMON, 0) == 3)
Graf Zahl wrote:No, it should read '<=3' to achieve what it wants.
Or you could try again and leave 3 serpents alive until the walls open up.

Nice. Thanks man. That answers everything.

Anakin S. · Post by **Anakin S.** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:31 am

Sure. Glad we could help.

dennisj1 · Post by **dennisj1** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:36 pm

I would like to fix this, myself, but where can I download Hexen's ACS Source?

PaganRaven · Post by **PaganRaven** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:50 pm

How come my post got deleted?

dennisj1 · Post by **dennisj1** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:53 pm

Probably some moderator deleted it. Why? I asked for the ACS source (script source) from Hexen, not the IWAD!
Edit: is there some tool to get the script source code from Hexen's IWAD?

Penguinator · Post by **Penguinator** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:55 pm

PaganRaven wrote:How come my post got deleted?

Phobus said some posts are myseriously dissappearing for no reason.

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:31 am

Which, dubious though it may sound, is literally all I know. Seems to have happened to HotWax more than anybody else, but it has gotten a few others (I haven't got a clue if any of mine have gone missing or not... I don't check)

Captain Ventris · Post by **Captain Ventris** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:34 pm

Phobus wrote:Which, dubious though it may sound, is literally all I know. Seems to have happened to HotWax more than anybody else, but it has gotten a few others (I haven't got a clue if any of mine have gone missing or not... I don't check)

Why would it happen to one person more than ano

Necromage · Post by **Necromage** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:15 am

If I had to guess it would be because Hotwax posts so much that statistically he has more posts of his to get deleted.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:02 am

Captain Ventris wrote:Why would it happen to one person more than ano

I don't believe it did. I just happened to be the one to notice and I'd made several posts the day it started happening. In fact, what happened was that all posts within a certain time block were deleted, regardless of poster.

All I know is it scared the shit out of me because I'd just had to do a system restore on my work computer. Very strange coincidence.

PaganRaven · Post by **PaganRaven** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:55 pm

This might seem like quite a necropost, but someone uploaded this video:

In the description is the offending code, in its complete script:

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script 13 OPEN
{
until(thingcount(T_DEMON, 0) == 3)
{
delay(const:210);
}
Door_Open(const:28, 32);
tagwait(const:28);
Stairs_BuildDownSync(const:18, 8, 16, 0);
}

From this I infer that there are no chaos serpents on the map until these guys teleport in (can't believe I never realized that for 2 decades).

This is an open script, so setting that to <= 3 would just make the doors open the first time you enter the map because there are no chaos serpents in it currently; and that's fine if you're okay with that. I'm sure a better solution can be made. Has anybody edited the script to fix the map?

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