Ultimate Doom Builder

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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:44 am

boris wrote:Yes, please open an issue.

OK, 'tis done: https://github.com/jewalky/UltimateDoom ... issues/665



I've been trying to think just how long this feature has existed. Certainly a long time. It wasn't in ZDoom 1.23 so I suspect it appeared sometime during the protracted 2.0.x beta/cab development phase. I *think* it was added before "any graphic anywhere" support (i.e. flats/textures/sprites being used on walls/floors regardless of type).
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby necros » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:00 pm

Quick question: When making a new zscript monster, I can use mapinfo to set a DoomEdNum so that I can place it in a map and have it appear in zdoom, however the monster does not appear in the list of monsters in UDB. In this thread (viewtopic.php?f=124&t=68293) the first reply,
Also, even though they won't appear in the list, they will still appear once the map is loaded
seems to imply that it is not possible. Is this still the case?
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Kappes Buur » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:01 am

necros wrote:Quick question: When making a new zscript monster, .....


I made a quick simple example pwad showing how to use the zcript actor
with MAPINFO - DoomEdNums so that the actor shows up in the editor

FUSION_SPIDER from Realm667

Spoiler:
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby boris » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:05 am

necros wrote:Quick question: When making a new zscript monster, I can use mapinfo to set a DoomEdNum so that I can place it in a map and have it appear in zdoom, however the monster does not appear in the list of monsters in UDB. In this thread (viewtopic.php?f=124&t=68293) the first reply,
Also, even though they won't appear in the list, they will still appear once the map is loaded
seems to imply that it is not possible. Is this still the case?

The OP in that thread uses GZDB, which doesn't support ZScript. UDB does, though, and it works fine. What you have to do is to include gzdoom.pk3 as a resource (but exclude from testing).
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:05 am

Just another "checking before I report it" post.

I was trying to use the Linedef Flags search to find lines of a particular activation type. However, several of the types that I tried gave me an error instead of carrying out the search.

For example:
"When player presses use" is selected:


But pressing the "Find" button gave me this:
Image

The same thing happened with a few other activation types (repeatspecial, missilecross, monsterpush and several others). I am pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that I have been able to do this before and successfully complete the search.

Is this known about? Is UDB doing something expected, or unexpected?
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby boris » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:30 am

That's a bug. UDB treats the flags that are related to activation as a special case, but that find function only checks the "normal" flags. For example it'll find lines that have the doublesided flag, but no flags related to activation. Please open an issue for that, should be easy to fix.
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:59 am

OK, done. Issue #667, the neighbour of the beast.

https://github.com/jewalky/UltimateDoom ... issues/667
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby necros » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:34 pm

boris wrote:What you have to do is to include gzdoom.pk3 as a resource (but exclude from testing).


omg, thank you! That was the missing part of the puzzle! Man, this has been driving me nuts for weeks now.
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:40 pm

I have noticed that when UDB displays models, it ignores any scaling that might exist in the model's DECORATE and only applies the scaling factor from MODELDEF.

Is this known about/expected?

Example. This radio model has Scale 0.5 in its DECORATE and Scale 0.6 0.4 0.6 in MODELDEF. The DECORATE scale is needed because the radio is shootable and its death frames are sprites, not models, and these need to be scaled down to look good.

In GZDoom, the radio model is scaled after applying the DECORATE scale.


The one on the left is the normal appearance of the radio. Out of interest, I also applied a 0.75 scale and a 0.5 scale in UDB to the item and those are the middle and right copies respectively.

However, in UDB, it is only applying the MODELDEF scale and therefore it is twice as big as it appears in game.


Is this a bug/unimplemented feature? If so, I'll raise an issue on GitHub.
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby boris » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:59 pm

Yes, I assume that's a bug.
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:35 pm

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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby boris » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:53 am

The years in review (2020/2021 edition)

Two years ago the first version of Ultimate Doom Builder was released. A lot has happened inside and outside of the Doom community since then, and UDB, too, has seen many changes.

Many bugs were fixed, and many features were added. Some are small quality of life imprevements, some are huge, like the scripting capabilites or the visual sloping for GZDoom (an compatibles).
Most of the new features and improvements are not immediately obvious, and since I know people love to not read the changelog here is a comprehensive list of all the cool stuff added in the last two years:

2021
  • Added scripting capabilities to modify the map programmatically at build-time (see the documentation)
  • Added DeHackEd support. Things changed through DeHackEd will now be displayed correctly in UDB. Also supports DEHEXTRA and DSDHacked
  • Added visual sloping for vertices
  • Added option to run pre- and post-commands when reloading resources or playtesting (for example to make using DoomMake easier, see this post)
  • Added game configuration for MBF21 (thanks to kraflab)
  • Visplane Explorer Mode now has configurable view heights (thanks to Afterglow)
  • Added event lines for Doom format line-to-line specials (like Boom's "Teleport to line with same tag") (thanks to Afterglow)
  • Added support for highlighting (and event lines) for arbitrary UDMF fields (for example used for portals in the EE game configuration)
  • Skill level and Engine can now set without starting a game each time
  • Added option to set additional parameters in the playtesting menu drop down button
  • Vanilla improvements:
    • negative y-offsets of patches are handled correctly
    • better support for self-referencing sectors in visual mode (thing will be displayed at the correct height in visual mode)

2020
  • Switch from SlimDX to OpenGL. Removal of DevIL. Other optimizations
  • UDB can now be built natively on Linux. Running it successfully is another story
  • Converted UDB to use double precision floating point numbers instead of single precision floating point numbers
  • Visual sloping for GZDoom/UDMF to make user-friendly use of plane equation slopes. This has also an option to make arching easier (see Bridgeburner's tutorial)
  • Added method to export selected sectors as an image, with optionally creating a brightmap, so it can be used as an texture
  • Improved OBJ exporter to create models that can be directly used in GZDoom without cleanup. Will also create MODELDEF and DECORATE/ZScript code (see example video)
  • Improved associations (event lines) to show the action of the between the tagged objects
  • Partial support for DECALDEF
  • The different geometry drawing modes now work with a transformed grid
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Re: Ultimate Doom Builder

Postby Enjay » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:26 am

Thank you (and all contributors) for UDB. Your continued work on it, your constant squishing of bugs, your receptiveness to ideas and your presence on the forum for quick and meaningful feedback and information are all very much appreciated.

UDB is an absolute powerhouse of a Doom (etc) editor. It is slick, efficient, approachable and stable. It is packed with lots of really useful features, can handle huge maps and massive numbers of resources without complaint or compromising its stability. It can do so many things, and makes them easy to do, which other Doom editors either can not do at all or, as often as not, will end up crashing when trying to do them, or creating invalid structures and sector references or even corrupting the whole map. In contrast, UDB just does it without fuss and gets it right. UDB feels far more professional than every other game map editor that I have used - and I don't just mean Doom ones. I mean editors for the many, many other games that I have dabbled with.

Quite simply, UDB has brought the joy of Doom editing back for me. Firing up UDB and messing around with a map is, to me, as much fun (perhaps even more so) than playing the game.

So, thank you once again.
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