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Re: Brutal Blood: One Unit Whole Blood Rebirth

Postby jablon1000 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:21 am

Yeah, weapon pack and monster pack will be great feature, incersing much more replayability. Monster pack espacially, because i think blood monsters fits good in medieval/castle/hell/etc theme levels.
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Korell » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:07 pm

SAmik37 wrote:You just can use Blood Rebirth as IWAD. Also we want to make NEW maps based on original maps. We want to expand them, add new areas, new secrets, more enemies.


So as this will be an IWAD with it's own maps based on those from Blood, will they be based on just the Blood base game maps (episodes 1-4) or will they also include ones based on the Cryptic Passage and Post Mortem episodes too?
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Blood Rebirth

Postby GENTEK » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:34 pm

Definitively interested to see more! Good job! :D
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby SAmik37 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:58 am

@Korell, right now only main game. 1-4 episodes, but we thinking about addon campaigns too. Maybe we make remakes of this addon maps, after finishing original campaign.
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Kizoky » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 am

This is probably the most accurate Blood mod I have ever seen on GZDoom
Keep up the good work!
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby elCreyo » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:29 pm

Hey. I just saw a video. Looks very neat. Blood is my favorite shooter so I'm always happy to see projects like this. Definitely looking forward to this.
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Captain J » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:44 pm

Super Bloody Impressive!! It's amazing that you made the game even more darker than the original counterpart. And i see there are newly revamped sound effects for each weapons and that Sawed-Off now sounds just like original, but now more powerful!

I might can help with you the sound revamping. Just ask me if you want! And good luck.
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Whoah » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:22 am

Cannot drive home just how excited I am for this! Definitely gonna keep checking in on this! Looks badass so far!
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Mere_Duke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:44 pm

Let us know what do you think about our project! :)

Whoah omg god please tell me I'm not dreaming.

Seriously, this project is like that enhanced version of Blood that I really wanted to see for years. I can't imagine how hard it was to recreate the whole bunch of maps...
I like:
- Enhanced vanilla maps
- A (hopefully) new enemy behaviors (what if a Cultist will be able to hit you with the stock of his shotgun at closest range?)
- New/enhanced weapons, reloadings, sounds etc etc
A two little things I dislike:
- Shotgun is from Blood Alpha, for years I thought it has been drawn irrealistically. Or maybe I just stick to classic?)
- When Zombie is lying, he should not cry in pain being gibbed or shot.

P.S.: What about Flare Pistol alt-fire?

So, I'll go and steal some patience to be able to survive until the release! Good luck & big thanks!
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby SAmik37 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:28 pm

Hey!.. Thanks @Mere_Duke!.. And no, you are not dreaming. We really making remake of Blood. Yep, recreate Blood maps a lot more difficulty than I thought. Also there is problem in engine differences, for example Doom engine don't support sector under sector like in Bulid Engine. So we need to use 3D Floors to make this parts of maps. So, release not soon. We trying to do our best! Sorry, but no.. Enemies same as in original Blood, shot, creep around, throwing dynomite and etc. But we are going to make NEW enemies, and right now we working on new enemy. But without spoilers! We want you guys to meet with that freak in person. Shotgun is really from Blood Alpha, and we decided take shotgun from Alpha because of atmosphere. We want make Blood more darker and creepy. Flare Gun alt-fire is removed, we think that a little bit not realistic. That a Flare Gun, don't a freaking grenade launcher. Also we remove useless alt-fire from Tommy Gun and replace it with more useful iron sights. About zombie, i don't understand what are you talking about. He is not cry when lying. Hmm.. Anyway, thanks for support and your feedback!.. :)
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Batandy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:15 pm

SAmik37 wrote:Hey!.. Thanks @Mere_Duke!.. And no, you are not dreaming. We really making remake of Blood. Yep, recreate Blood maps a lot more difficulty than I thought. Also there is problem in engine differences, for example Doom engine don't support sector under sector like in Bulid Engine. So we need to use 3D Floors to make this parts of maps. So, release not soon. We trying to do our best! Sorry, but no.. Enemies same as in original Blood, shot, creep around, throwing dynomite and etc. But we are going to make NEW enemies, and right now we working on new enemy. But without spoilers! We want you guys to meet with that freak in person. Shotgun is really from Blood Alpha, and we decided take shotgun from Alpha because of atmosphere. We want make Blood more darker and creepy. Flare Gun alt-fire is removed, we think that a little bit not realistic. That a Flare Gun, don't a freaking grenade launcher. Also we remove useless alt-fire from Tommy Gun and replace it with more useful iron sights. About zombie, i don't understand what are you talking about. He is not cry when lying. Hmm.. Anyway, thanks for support and your feedback!.. :)


Don't forget about line portals and seamless stacked sector portals for sector over sector rooms, they can be super helpful :)
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby hammer oz » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:56 am

If this where a source port I would happly pay for this due to how much time is being put into this lovely creation. :D I can't wait for a release to be revealed.
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Pandut » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:01 am

Oooh, liking the looks of this! I too agree with maybe a separate gameplay version with just weapons and monsters so that it can be played on mapsets like Scythe2 or Herian. Either way, very awesome work. Looking forward to it's release! :D
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby SAmik37 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:24 am

He-he, yep.. About source port. We already extract some code from original Blood. And got lots of useful for us information. For example we have original HP and damage values, including multipliers from different difficulties (On high difficulties, enemies damage you much more and have more HP). So we don't use random values, we use values from original Blood code. Also, thanks to source code we make "Delirium drunk" effect. But there still lots of code to extract, and we are not going to release source code. Sorry for that, but we don't have copyrights to do this. And also we don't have all the source code of Blood.. So, we use source code only to make our mod feels more like original.. :)
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Re: Blood Rebirth

Postby Mere_Duke » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:28 pm

SAmik37 wrote:About zombie, I don't understand what are you talking about.

As far as I remember, I meant that zombies yell when got killed while lying on the ground knocked out. It's 2.07 in the video. It's probably because zombie actor uses default death state when killed being knocked; should be better to use a separate death state in that case. (Because that Death state represents death anim of body that's standing upright; there should be another anim for lying bodies only.)
SAmik37 wrote:Flare Gun alt-fire is removed

Nice! I think it's unrealistic too!
SAmik37 wrote:He-he, yep.. About source port. We already extract some code from original Blood. And got lots of useful for us information. For example we have original HP and damage values, including multipliers from different difficulties (On high difficulties, enemies damage you much more and have more HP). So we don't use random values, we use values from original Blood code. Also, thanks to source code we make "Delirium drunk" effect. But there still lots of code to extract, and we are not going to release source code. Sorry for that, but we don't have copyrights to do this. And also we don't have all the source code of Blood.. So, we use source code only to make our mod feels more like original.. :)

Oh, you should have cooperated with M210 who are making (and so successfully!) BloodGDX Java Blood sourceport. Probably you both did the same reverse engineering work twice.
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