On Cosmic Tides - Yar har, fiddle dee dee! [WIP]

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>Not using Initial D soundtrack for MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING

If this does get in (and if it doesn't you better make another project just to put this in), you could do another music pack.

"But Untitled, isn't adding an entire soundtrack just for one probably-not-major part of a project a huge waste of-" NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT EFFICIENCY OF FILESIZE (for the most part)

[Arctangent]

I'm pretty sure you'll find the exact opposite opinion more than you'd think, actually.

[Silentdarkness12]

Idk, maybe I just don't know where to look, but I rarely ever see people complain about the file-sizes of Doom mods. If at all.

[TerminusEst13]

>Not using Initial D soundtrack for MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING

That was indeed Initial D music; Gas Gas Gas is part of the Fifth Stage album.

If this does get in (and if it doesn't you better make another project just to put this in)

If this ends up getting cut from the game, I'll likely just release it as a standalone. Same with the platformer hacking system.

[Captain J]

With different game style to play with, huh? Making those standalones into F Zero and Super Mario if got rejected would be wonderful-

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>Not using Initial D soundtrack for MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING

That was indeed Initial D music; Gas Gas Gas is part of the Fifth Stage album.

FUDGE

[Slax]

>Not using Initial D soundtrack for MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING

That was indeed Initial D music; Gas Gas Gas is part of the Fifth Stage album.

FUDGE

Maybe you just watched the wrong video.
Brmmmmmmmm...

[TerminusEst13]

Boy, that's a slight bit of a change in FPS.

[Captain J]

'I hate Crates.' - Sam S. Stone

And great effort to make those crate models actually work! If you know what i mean.

[Sinael]

What is the difference between those crates (aside from textures)?

[TerminusEst13]

One's voxels, the other's models. Voxels are rendered very inefficiently in the engine, each separate voxel is a separate 3D model, which makes the voxel boxes so much more taxing than models.
Which isn’t really so much of a problem when it’s just a few of the actors by themselves, but in a room like this chock full of them, the difference is very noticable. And with the amount of actors weapons/items/props been spawning, optimization is something that REALLY needs to be kept in mind.
It’s a double-edged sword that’s had me many a nights spinning around in my chair, staring at the ceiling.

Voxels are needlessly hoggy on resources and significantly more difficult to make. But it’s VERY EASY to mess up models and break the look of a spritegame.
There has never been an implementation of models in a mod/TC I’ve seen that has looked natural along with sprites and maps. Hocus Pocus Doom, Blade of Agony, and especially Hunter’s Moon all have models sticking out like a sore thumb. Voxels look a lot more natural and fit with the style of sprites much more easily.

[RockstarRaccoon]

To be fair, I blame that in Blade of Agony on the insistence of using them on decorations: those statues could just be a sprite, those barrels could just be a sector... Why so many MD2s?

Also, the main reason why MD2s don't look as good as voxels in this case is unaligned pixels. I think you can fix that by taking care about that and making textures where it's not as obvious...

[Ozymandias81]

To be fair, I blame that in Blade of Agony on the insistence of using them on decorations: those statues could just be a sprite, those barrels could just be a sector... Why so many MD2s?

Also, the main reason why MD2s don't look as good as voxels in this case is unaligned pixels. I think you can fix that by taking care about that and making textures where it's not as obvious...

1. We used MD3s and only a couple of MD2s

2. The amount of details given by models can't be reached nor is reasonable via sprites, even if they are super-dupely detailed

3. There is a menu option on BoA called ENH. OPTIONS which may improve GREATLY in-game performance: for your info the DistanceCheck feature has been added even thanks to BoA and our "insistence" to include models

4. If you don't have a good PC nor if it is good enough configured then that's why performance doesn't go well (these are my specs and I can run BoA at 35/40fps quite everywhere in the game)

5. Skins can be fixed and adjusted perfectly over 3d models but sometimes this would be super-nitpicky if you consider the huge amount of work behind them

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@TerminusEst13

Sorry for being a bit out if the contest here, but in any case very good work over those models!
I personally use Misfit3d for several reasons, what did you use to build those boxes? Or did you import them from somewhere else?

[RockstarRaccoon]

2. The amount of details given by models can't be reached nor is reasonable via sprites, even if they are super-dupely detailed

I've seen some pretty good looking stuff done with 2x res billboarded sprites.

3. There is a menu option on BoA called ENH. OPTIONS which may improve GREATLY in-game performance: for your info the DistanceCheck feature has been added even thanks to BoA and our "insistence" to include models
4. If you don't have a good PC nor if it is good enough configured then that's why performance doesn't go well (these are my specs and I can run BoA at 35/40fps quite everywhere in the game)

We're not talking about performance, we're talking about how models sometimes don't fit in with a sprite-based world.

5. Skins can be fixed and adjusted perfectly over 3d models but sometimes this would be super-nitpicky if you consider the huge amount of work behind them

Yeah, that's what I meant: if you're really careful about the exact dimensions of a model and its texture, you can avoid having it look out of place.


Edit:
Waitaminute... Terminus, which picture is the one with the models? I think the second one looks better!

[Viscra Maelstrom]

pretty sure the second picture IS the one with models, given the whole talk he had about how voxels are inefficiently rendered in the game and taking up lots of resources.