[V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby Jimmy » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:21 am

_mental_ wrote:These warnings were always there. The game type is Doom under the hood.
I think the only way to get rid of them (without changing source code and/or menudef inside zdoom.pk3) is to make small empty textures with these names.

Looks like they appear in the .exe version as well.

We're already using a modified zdoom.pk3 with that, so I guess that'd be the elegant option - if it also worked for the end-users'-ZDoom-compatible version... bah.

Pretty sure those errors only started appearing come 2.8.1. Was something changed in zdoom.pk3's MENUDEF definitions lately?
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby _mental_ » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:38 am

Jimmy wrote:Pretty sure those errors only started appearing come 2.8.1. Was something changed in zdoom.pk3's MENUDEF definitions lately?

Can't say when they started to appear but the warnings are here with 2.8.0.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby MTrop » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:33 pm

They started appearing in a build before 2.8.0. I didn't think anything of it since they weren't errors. Our MENUDEF does not even make reference to these lumps, so I'm chalking it up to engine oversight.

Gez wrote:What is that "code fragmentation" thing? Is it just that ZDoom and GZDoom were compiled with different versions of FMOD Ex?


Yeah. You can't use one DLL with the other, or each gives an error, and you get no sound. Not the case with previous official releases.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby _mental_ » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:44 am

MTrop wrote:They started appearing in a build before 2.8.0. I didn't think anything of it since they weren't errors. Our MENUDEF does not even make reference to these lumps, so I'm chalking it up to engine oversight.

How about adding the following to TEXTURES.base file?
Code: Select allExpand view
texture M_DOOM, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_NGAME, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_OPTION, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_LOADG, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_SAVEG, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_QUITG, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_EPISOD, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_NEWG, 1, 1 { NullTexture }
texture M_SKILL, 1, 1 { NullTexture }

Works for me (tm)
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby MTrop » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:22 am

Works for me, too! Thanks, mental.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby NeuralStunner » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:06 pm

You might be able to shave a few bytes by using 1x1 transparent Doom GFX. 13 bytes apiece, though that includes overhead for the file entry. It would also be slightly messier, so probably not worth it. :P
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby Gez » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:27 pm

Given that "texture M_" and ", 1, 1 { NullTexture }" are repeated, they'll get compressed pretty well. Note that any file in a zip entry has a local file header, size 28+ bytes (28 bytes without counting name filed and extra data field, which have variable size), so with the file approach you get 34+ byte per file without even counting the compressed data, and unless you do a "solid archive" the fact that their content is identical will not allow further compression. Bottom line: I'm pretty sure the file size is smaller with the texture system.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby Turret49 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:42 pm

Hi, I came across a bug while playing. On E1A7 (the nonlinear city level), I had collected all the keys and was searching for the last secret, after a while of checking powerups I ignored I found the final secret was that Hotsauce power-up that makes you run really fast and invincible. Having finished with the level I rushed to the exit with the powerup on, and left while I was still on fire.

When the next level (E1A8) loaded I found I was completely invincible, and turning god mode on or off didn't fix it, the game still thought I was invincible from the Hotsauce powerup in the previous level, though I wasn't on fire any more.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby jeans477 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:53 am

Awesome mod, really fantastic level and enemy design. The HUD looks great too, but could you add scaling options to the HUD if possible? If I Stretch the full-screen HUD its a bit too big and kinda overlaps the weapon sprites but when not stretched its too small.
A solution is to use the Alternate HUD, but it is not as pretty as the Status bar and fullscreen HUD. Also the Alternate HUD lacks the "Goonade throwing strength" meter and the Goonade counter.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby mumblemumble » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:26 am

Great mod, though grenades feel... Wonky?


I expected they would work on crowds, but instead it does high damage to a single target, and jack shit to everyone else.

I think it might be worth adjusting the grenades performance, or at least letting us know its a power hitter and not a crowd pleaser.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby Captain J » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:16 am

as i know, goonade's goo DOES hurts the enemies on the ground. if those goo piles were well splattered widely, it might hurt them plenty.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby MTrop » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:46 pm

Turret49 wrote:Hi, I came across a bug while playing. On E1A7 (the nonlinear city level), I had collected all the keys and was searching for the last secret, after a while of checking powerups I ignored I found the final secret was that Hotsauce power-up that makes you run really fast and invincible. Having finished with the level I rushed to the exit with the powerup on, and left while I was still on fire.

When the next level (E1A8) loaded I found I was completely invincible, and turning god mode on or off didn't fix it, the game still thought I was invincible from the Hotsauce powerup in the previous level, though I wasn't on fire any more.
Spoiler:


There might be a bug in how the God flag is set between how powerups set it and how the player freeze ACS calls happen. The place where the script that removes active powerups is called might need adjusting. Good find!

jeans477 wrote:Awesome mod, really fantastic level and enemy design. The HUD looks great too, but could you add scaling options to the HUD if possible? If I Stretch the full-screen HUD its a bit too big and kinda overlaps the weapon sprites but when not stretched its too small.
A solution is to use the Alternate HUD, but it is not as pretty as the Status bar and fullscreen HUD. Also the Alternate HUD lacks the "Goonade throwing strength" meter and the Goonade counter.


I recall that there is a separate set of definition files for the GZDoom alternate HUD, though I'm not sure the strength meter is possible to do in it. It's not as scriptable as the regular HUD. We'll look into the HUD scaling.

mumblemumble wrote:Great mod, though grenades feel... Wonky?


I expected they would work on crowds, but instead it does high damage to a single target, and jack shit to everyone else.

I think it might be worth adjusting the grenades performance, or at least letting us know its a power hitter and not a crowd pleaser.


Lobbing a goonade at a specific dude does slightly more damage due to the goonade impact itself, but the same amount of blobs spawn and do the same total damage. An enemy hit with the goonade will eat a lot of the goo, so that's a lot of damage dealt to huge targets. It might be worth revisiting for balancing.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby mumblemumble » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:25 pm

Definitely, i always used goonades for triangle tanks because anything else seemed a waste.

Even tossing it into a crowd of jerks only splaters 3, or 4 at most, which really doesn't seem worth it. That is assuming they are squished up like sardines, otherwise you can easily only kill one.
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby JohnnyTheWolf » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:27 pm

I really love this TC, but I am having a hard time finding all the secrets.

Can anyone help me there?
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Re: [V1.3] The Adventures of Square: Episode 1!

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:23 am

Check waterfalls frequently. Every one you see, possibly.
Jump around a lot.
Go for areas you think might be just out of reach. They may be accessible.
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