Hell-Forged (updated to v1.11 - development paused)

[SamVision]

Is a widescreen and high res titlepic not possible? I think ive seen it in other mods.

[Amuscaria]

It certainly is, since the original picture is more than enough to make it widescreen friendly. Not sure how wide I'd need to make it because it just gets squished.

[Captain J]

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- This Mushroom looks collectible. But no matter how i try, i just can't pick it up. Or is it really collectible? I'd say make it more secret-y so no one's gonna get confused!


- Some Texture Misalignment found on The Testing Grounds. Or is this place hiding something?

- The Vorpal Blade with no enchantment makes Blood barrels explode anyways. Is this some kind of overuse prevention?

- Care for replacing all the existing vanilla enemy projectile sprites? Like Aracknights' and Corpulents'. I'm sure you still can use some Outdated assets. No?

- The Wheel of Pain's Primary Fire seems does not damage the Pain Chance-free enemy like Aracknights, and you can absorb a lot of health constantly unless they goes to pain state.

I'm still having super fun with this version. Thanks for fixing some stuff!

[Gez]

It certainly is, since the original picture is more than enough to make it widescreen friendly. Not sure how wide I'd need to make it because it just gets squished.

There's the workaround of using a TITLEMAP and displaying your title screen either on a fullbright wall that the camera is facing perfectly in its center, or with an ACS HudMessage. It's hacky, fiddly and annoying to make though.

[Amuscaria]

@Captain J:

White Mushroom: Shoot the mushroom.

Textures: Fixed.

Blade + Barrel: I don't have a problem with them exploding from the sword.

Projectiles: They're just reskinned Doom enemies, so I think it's fine that they're using the vanilla projectiles. Also the Aracknight is using the a the purple projectile, which is new from DE. o_O

Aracknight: I'm not sure what you mean. They go into pain chances fine on my end. Even with the the Wheel.

[SamVision]

I found the vanilla projectiles a little bothersome as well so I went ahead and replaced them myself with an addon, really easy to do. Also something about the Immolator that has always bothered me, the firing sound of this thing is way too loud and drowns out all the of sound effects, the more I use it the worse it feels.

[TheRailgunner]

Trying to work on a smooth version of HF for my personal use, but I can't even seem to get Hell-Forged to autoload.

[Amuscaria]

@Railgunner: Autoload on what? As an Iwad?
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Got a question about sky textures. I wanted the sky to not repeat vertically, so I extended the custom sky textures to 256, thinking it would fill the bottom of the sky below the horizon line. It didn't. Instead the entire sky just shifts upwards and it makes it looks like I'm inside a well with the sky as the texture. Is it possible to have a sky that doesn't extend upwards? I guess I could use a skybox sector if need be.

[TheRailgunner]

@Railgunner: Autoload on what? As an Iwad?

Technically, as a PWAD - it's just that I want to be able to load it before the Smooth mod (otherwise Hell-Forged's native classes and animations take precedence, as Smooth variants are loaded first, then overridden by base HF).

[Amuscaria]

I'm assuming GZDoom loads wads in alphabetical order. Can't you rename the wads and put a 1 before the Hell-Forged wad, and a 2 before the the smooth one?

[skdursh]

@Railgunner: Autoload on what? As an Iwad?

Technically, as a PWAD - it's just that I want to be able to load it before the Smooth mod (otherwise Hell-Forged's native classes and animations take precedence, as Smooth variants are loaded first, then overridden by base HF).

Just make a simple batch (.BAT) file to load all the files in whatever order you want.

[TheRailgunner]

I'm assuming GZDoom loads wads in alphabetical order. Can't you rename the wads and put a 1 before the Hell-Forged wad, and a 2 before the the smooth one?

I can't seem to autoload it at all - putting HF-099.wad in the autoload section and starting up GZD just gives me the base IWAD (in this case, Doom 2).

For now, I've resorted to working on a modified version of the WAD itself (so far, have smoother versions of the two swords, just because it was bothering me).

[Captain J]

White Mushroom: Shoot the mushroom.

Shoot the mushroom?... Argh crap. Why i didn't think that?

Blade + Barrel: I don't have a problem with them exploding from the sword.

I mean, the Sword is not on fire nor has demonic power. It's just a cold metallic sword that only causes physical damage now. I do really wonder it makes the barrel explode since Nail projectiles make them impaled and spill all the contained demon blood... Well, you're the boss!

Projectiles: They're just reskinned Doom enemies, so I think it's fine that they're using the vanilla projectiles. Also the Aracknight is using the a the purple projectile, which is new from DE. o_O

Well, i guess it's reasonable to just replace the rest of them enemy projectiles? Aracknights has it, so...

Aracknight: I'm not sure what you mean. They go into pain chances fine on my end. Even with the the Wheel.

Well... Forget it. Previous version had this glitch or something. They goes to pain state properly.

Also one more thing:

I'm not sure, but when Immorator's direct hit puff spawns closer to the wall like this, it repeats animation and the sound faster than light.

[Amuscaria]

@Captain J: Oh you were playing the 0.9b version. Yeah, I didn't know that armor prevented enemies from going into the pain-state until Blueshadow and Comet mentioned it. It was fixed with the ALLOWPAIN flag. Also, that fire bug. I've known about it for many versions, but have no idea what is causing it or how to trigger it (seems random). It might have something to do with the A_Tracer action because it seems to stop once you acquire a new tracer. I'm not sure how to fix it, tbh.

As for the barrel exploding, I don't have another a death state for it. So it's fine I guess. Makes about as much sense as punching the Doom barrels makes it explode *shrug*.

[Captain J]

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- At HF1M7, i found this texture without fog effect.


- Can you make this lift go any faster? It's too high and takes a while to wait.


- These Pillars moves so often, The Director gets stuck and wouldn't do anything until it lands on the larger plain. It makes the boss fight quite easy, if you ask me.

- At HF1M8, after activating all Green Skull Switches, it benefits me but the text says 'find 0 more green switches'. Although i pressed all the switches. I think the last switch i pressed was at the Red Skull Section.

- Well now... Let's talk about the Hellsmith once more. Yes, i've found all the Green Switches and powerups to make the Boss Battle easy. And guess what? It was easy!... A bit. I mean a little, teeny tiny bit easy.

Of course, his patterns are easy to read and yet simple. Also he's weak against Soul Weapons. Finding the Reaper would be very efficient... Although i haven't found one. I thought it Green Switch Secret would give me the weapon i want, but nope.

So let's talk about his Shoulder Cannon pattern... Again, and i get it. You basically have to take cover when he's about to attack. But the thing is, the projectiles are so fast - so many, each one of them deals heavy damage and it homes directly at me. They travels most likely forever until they hits the wall. And the worst part is that he attacks without giving me a chance to actually dodge it. Every Bosses, like Behemoth and the Director gives you the possible delay to take cover. Hell, even Hellduke does. But a little bit. A little bit of delay for his Shoulder Cannon attack will make a lot of difference in positive way.

Oh! And did i mention that the Floor Flames goes through the wall and Shoulder Cannon Projectiles tend to turn around the wall where i'm hiding and then just hit me? Even taking cover is most likely a Gamble. Sorry if i'm being demanding or salty here, but making the First Chapter Boss some git gud attacks right in the player's face without giving them a try to learn and to stop saving constantly during the battle is, with all respect, pretty frustrating. It's like one of those bullet-hell stuff, but much faster.

So yeah. It's just my rambling here. You don't have to take this whole thing seriously. But i would kill for giving him a short delay before firing his darn Shoulder Junks!

EDIT: Hot news! I've just updated my sound addon and it's ready to go. Now both player has rightfully individual voice, added minor but new sounds and replaced some awkward ones. Please check out the First Post!