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This is necassary, trust me!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:02 am
by Phobus
Right, all of you may or may not no about the water resource wad I'm making.

Well it includes monsters made specifically for water (the fish is one I've actually made, go to the announcement thread in Editing to see what it's all about)

I need a way to make it so that there is a script or sector-action item, that will stop any things with the right TID going beyond a certain Z-coordinate. This will stop the fish 'swimming' out of the water and into the air. And following you that way.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:14 am
by Enjay
Yes please. This would be very useful for "fishy" enemies. At present they are restricted to being placed in pipes and other places where they can't access the water surface.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:24 am
by Phobus
I know, it's awkward when I jump out of the water in my test wad (not to be released) and start to gloat at them thinking one of my attempts at stopping might work, only to have a swarm of nasty looking fish fly after me.

That was actually what made me request.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:29 am
by Cutmanmike
Or how about a +NOWATERCROSS flag?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:10 am
by Phobus
which would do what?

I want to limit the Z-height atainable for actors with same TID as object, with something like this.

(It's one of those sector_action things)
(TID,Z-height limit.)

or it could be so that it is placed at the Z-height you want it to have, and that stops them going that high.

Something like that, because it would be simple and easy to do for whatever enemies you like, just remember to tag appropriately, and it might take a bit of clever level editing with water at the same height on all (if there is more than one) entry areas, which would be realistic anyway.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:47 am
I think a flag (whether it be a thing or sector flag) which prevents a creature passing through the surface of "deep water" would be easier - both for whoever codes it and us mod makers/level designers.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:50 am
by Phobus
ok, if that would be easier, because the deep water goes in the control sector, and the control sector is the one that is coloured and has to have it's floor height as the surface of the water, but it acts as the underwater part, which might make it difficult. But whatever is easier, just as long as it gets done. Of course I'd have to put the flag on any monsters I make in the wad I'm making, but so far that's only one i'd have to change.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:17 pm
by David Ferstat
I think that this functionality would open up whole new environments for developers.

My recommendation would be to implement it as a monster flag, so that the mapper can decide just which monsters should be restricted this way.

After all I can see a place for flying piranha in a map, can't you :)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:14 am
by Phobus
Well my fish don't make it look good at all, trust me on that one. Basically, we need to get a way of stopping monsters from going so high/flying out of a deepwater sector/stopping them going above a fake floor.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:58 am
by Sphagne
Well, this is one of my older requests. Hope you have more luck in this. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:34 am
by Phobus
It's a definite must have, or so it would seem.