Export bots to zscript...

[Apeirogon]

...because hardcoded bots pathfinding and aiming on/with non vanilla maps/weapons is questionable at best.

I think I could do it myself, but Im not sure from what I must start.

[Graf Zahl]

The bots are entirely unsupported code, that also means not getting help with their implementation.

[Apeirogon]

entirely unsupported code

You mean its bad? Or some other problems?
Im not up to date with bots and why they was removed from engine and returned back at some point.

[Graf Zahl]

It means that this code was written 20 years ago by a person who hasn't been part of the Doom community for just as long. None of the active developers has ever invested any time in this code aside from keeping it from totally breaking apart.

[Apeirogon]

So its more "write new bot code from scratch and then export it to zscript" than "export already existing code to zscript"", got it.

[Marisa the Magician]

Rachael and I talked about this long ago. Exporting bots really would mean having to rewrite the whole thing from scratch. Perhaps just only providing the base skeleton for the AI then having someone else do the rest of the job.

[Rachael]

If anyone else wants to code ZScript bots, my only real requirement is that they modify the player input state in order to move, etc. And that they're smart enough to handle non-vanilla weapons/items.

But otherwise, yeah, it's pretty simple to create a GZDoom where most of the ZCajun code is removed.

[Deybar_TECH]

I adore and use the (bot) because I don't have internet at home.

and for years I thought they were only available in (zandronum & skulltag)
I recently discovered that they can be used in any (zdoom).
and I would like to work with them now that I can.


My opinion is that a console command called (] add BotActor "name") is added and that this actor be treated as a bot and derived from the PLAYERPAWN or a new BOT_PLAYERPAWN. This actor should be able to appear in the scores, be hated as a player and also be able to (revive / respawn) automatically.

its operation as intelligence, ability to use doors, pick up objects and use weapons would be determined by the modders with the help of ZScript if a function similar to (tick) is replaced and that inside only has defined (A_Chase) to work as a (Monster) with the flag (FRIENDLY)

[Kinsie]

Opinions are nice, but in this particular situation, code patches are nicer.

[Apeirogon]

Rachael and I talked about this long ago. Exporting bots really would mean having to rewrite the whole thing from scratch. Perhaps just only providing the base skeleton for the AI then having someone else do the rest of the job.

If you mean pathfinding, it can be done by adding read only thinker field to sector struct which would contain, and monitor, all data about neighbor and "self" sectors, like area, size, height, lines status, accessibility (for actors) to other sectors, stuff for creating and using A* graph, discrete math and graph theory stuff.
But Im not sure that sector struct is suitable place for this, since Im not familiar with gzdoom well enough.