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lowskill. wrote:purist
Enjay wrote:lowskill. wrote:purist
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of the loud-voiced self-styled "purists" shaping, moulding and bending what is done in the community to their will. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be due consideration for the preservation of Doom traditions and styles, but so many of these "purists" arguments are just unnecessary obstacles to progression where both the old and the new can usually happily co-exist anyway.
In this case, if someone is getting upset that a key that they don't have to use (and which can be turned off mod-side for any mod made after that was a possibility) has a default binding, then I really don't care. As far as I'm concerned, they are being irrational and selfish (as they so often are). If they are getting that pissy about it, why are they even playing GZDoom in the first place? Oh, that's right, the rules of "purism" alter from person to person anyway.
Of course, the above rant is all a bit straw man because no purist has actually raised the objection in this case (yet). I've just reached a point where my patience has run out with "but the purists won't like it" arguments - especially when its a case that the purists can easily not use the feature and all that they are doing is being offended on behalf of a potential new player who "won't get the true Doom experience".
The purists may be loud, but their opinion is no more important or valid than the (probable) majority of other users who are not lying on the floor screaming and drumming their heels in a tantrum.
lowskill. wrote:Well that escalated quickly.
Enjay wrote:lowskill. wrote:Well that escalated quickly.
Fair point.
I don't think you worded things poorly and your point was a fair enough one to make. It's just that I personally have reached breaking point with all the "but we can't do that because the purists won't like it" things that have happened in the past. Half of them don't even like GZDoom anyway.
w +forward
s +back
a +moveleft
d +moveright
e +jump
x crouch
mouse2 +altattack
` toggleconsole
1 "slot 1"
2 "slot 2"
3 "slot 3"
4 "slot 4"
5 "slot 5"
6 "slot 6"
7 "slot 7"
8 "slot 8"
9 "slot 9"
0 "slot 0"
[ invprev
] invnext
mwheelleft invprev
mwheelright invnext
enter invuse
- sizedown
= sizeup
shift +speed
space +use
mouse1 +attack
capslock "toggle cl_run"
f1 menu_help
f2 menu_save
f3 menu_load
f4 menu_options
f5 menu_display
f6 quicksave
f7 menu_endgame
f8 togglemessages
f9 quickload
f11 bumpgamma
f10 menu_quit
tab togglemap
pause pause
sysrq screenshot
t messagemode
\ +showscores
f12 spynext
mwheeldown weapnext
mwheelup weapprev
// Originally just for Heretic, Hexen, and Strife.
// I can't see why they shouldn't be for Doom or Chex either.
pgup +moveup
ins +movedown
home land
pgdn +lookup
del +lookdown
end centerview
// Xbox 360 / PS2 controllers
pad_a +use
pad_y +jump
rtrigger +attack
ltrigger +altattack
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rshoulder weapnext
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dpadright invnext
dpaddown invuse
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lthumb crouch
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mapbind f am_togglefollow
mapbind g am_togglegrid
mapbind p am_toggletexture
mapbind m am_setmark
mapbind c am_clearmarks
mapbind 0 am_gobig
mapbind rightarrow +am_panright
mapbind leftarrow +am_panleft
mapbind uparrow +am_panup
mapbind downarrow +am_pandown
mapbind - +am_zoomout
mapbind = +am_zoomin
mapbind kp- +am_zoomout
mapbind kp+ +am_zoomin
mapbind mwheelup "am_zoom 1.2"
mapbind mwheeldown "am_zoom -1.2"
drfrag wrote:The most common default is clearly wasd, but now which wasd?
Rachael wrote:I do 100% agree with what you've said here, Graf, but I think the majority of people in this discussion are asking for defaults to be set to what people most commonly set them to, rather than what they personally want.
That being said - that comes with a different issue entirely - who decides what is the most common default?
Unless we have a way of asking for people's INI's and running them through a statistical tool that spits out the defaults that most people use, everything is purely arbitrary.
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