Are assets with nudity allowed in projects?

[Ariasio]

I wasn't sure whether to make this thread here or in General, but since it's technically a question about assets, I guess it's here. If not, feel free to move it to the correct place.

Now, onto the matter at hand. What's this community's stance on nudity in projects? Not in erotic or pornographic context, but rather mostly shock factor context. You see, I'd really love to make my project's atmosphere as grim and edgy as possible, so I thought that aside from the usual male gore, I'd throw in some female corpses as well. The thing with those particular female corpse sprites, however, is that they're in various states of undress, often baring their private parts. Apart from that, there'd also be one topless enemy taken from Sirens.wad

Would such sprites be allowed as a means of enhancing the atmosphere (given I'd write out warnings about the nudity in both the title of the post and the opening post itself, of course) or am I risking the ol' banhammer for doing that? I'm still in the process of creating the database, so I can still just pick something else, if that sort of thing is disallowed, without much problem. For that same reason now is also the best time to ask such a thing rather than much further into development when I have three maps laden with mutilated naked women in plain sight.

Thanks in advance for the input.

[Matt]

grim and edgy

in my capacity as someone who has no administrative powers over anything around here, I suggest rethinking your project.

[Ariasio]

grim and edgy

in my capacity as someone who has no administrative powers over anything around here, I suggest rethinking your project.

I'll wait for someone who does, then because to be perfectly honest, their answer is the one that counts the most. Still, thanks for replying.

[Hellser]

Please refer to this, particularly the "Not Safe For Work/18+ Content Rules" section.

[Ariasio]

Please refer to this, particularly the "Not Safe For Work/18+ Content Rules" section.

I see. I've read the rules, but I thought this referred only to posting on the forums and not to projects. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Hellser]

It relates to a little of both.

[Ariasio]

It relates to a little of both.

Well, I don't really intend on breaking any of those. It's not like I'm trying to make a porn WAD or anything of that sort, so I'm glad the rules regarding freedom of expression are reasonably lenient and I can make my levels as macabre as I want them to be

[Rachael]

NSFW works are allowed, but the images must not show it unless they are hidden or masked in some way. (It's okay to put them behind a click wall that explicitly states NSFW - spoiler tags would work, for example)

However, you said your work is "edgy". You are hereby warned: If your mod includes any hate content or anything that sparks a massive amount of controversy and outrage, you will likely be banned. We don't need that kind of thing here.

[Ariasio]

NSFW works are allowed, but the images must not show it unless they are hidden or masked in some way. (It's okay to put them behind a click wall that explicitly states NSFW - spoiler tags would work, for example)

Sure. I was planning on doing it like that anyway.

However, you said your work is "edgy". You are hereby warned: If your mod includes any hate content or anything that sparks a massive amount of controversy and outrage, you will likely be banned. We don't need that kind of thing here.

Maybe "edgy" wasn't the right word to use. Don't worry, I'm not trying to make a spiritual successor to Moonman I mostly meant it in the "atmosphere straight out of a metal album cover" kind of way. Come to think of it, my mod isn't even really going to have anything that hasn't already been done in that regard. When I was writing this thread, I kinda forgot for a moment how edgy Doom is pretty much right out of the box, with all the satanic imagery, violence, heavy metal-ish soundtrack and whatnot, and therefore I also didn't realize that because of that, the standards for what qualifies as "edgy" might be a bit different around here.

[Enjay]

Indeed. Self proclaimed "edginess" is often a bit of a warning sign.

edgy
something or someone trying too hard to be cool, almost to a point where it's cringe worthy.

I would say that the words "immature" and "poorly thought out" could usually go in there too.

Oh, and related:

edgelord
Someone, especially posting on the internet, who uses shocking and nihilistic speech and opinions that they themselves may or may not actually believe to gain attention and come across as a more dangerous and unique person. Most Edgelords are teenagers trying to seem overly cool and/or over-casually apathetic.

I haven't seen your mod yet, and I haven't seen anything in your other posts to imply that you are likely to fit the above. Indeed, asking first is a good move but some of the description of your mod runs counter to that good impression.

As a reasonable rule of thumb, if you have to ask "should I do this", there's a good chance that the answer is "no". However, as I said, I haven't seen your mod so I would advise careful consideration of what should and should not be in it - and remember wildweasel's "ick factor".

[Ariasio]

Indeed. Self proclaimed "edginess" is often a bit of a warning sign. [...] I would say that the words "immature" and "poorly thought out" could usually go in there too.

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I haven't seen your mod yet, and I haven't seen anything in your other posts to imply that you are likely to fit the above. Indeed, asking first is a good move but some of the description of your mod runs counter to that good impression.

As a reasonable rule of thumb, if you have to ask "should I do this", there's a good chance that the answer is "no". However, as I said, I haven't seen your mod so I would advise careful consideration of what should and should not be in it - and remember wildweasel's "ick factor".

As I've already said, "edgy" definitely wasn't the right word use and I've already explained why I used it. As for why I asked whether or not I'm allowed to put such a thing in my mod because I wanted to make sure I can raise the bar a teeny, tiny bit higher than usual in terms of how grisly in terms of aesthetics and how dark in terms of atmosphere I can make the whole thing, without anyone causing a fuss over the fact the corpse sprites have a couple pixels on them that vaguely resemble breasts or pubic hair. There are many kinds of people around, and every community has its own standards, so I simply had to make double sure I won't get banned because of such a petty thing. I'm glad this doesn't seem to be the case, though, and I can raise that metaphorical bar without worry.

[Rachael]

If it's BD/PB/NashGore-like - that shouldn't be much of an issue.

[Ariasio]

Okay, just to make triple sure - here are some of the sprites I want to put in my mod. They're female corpses from Blood, edited to not have underwear anymore. Would that sort of thing be okay with you all, provided I'd mark the mod, as well as the screenshots as NSFW in the thread dedicated to it?

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[Rachael]

As far as I know, those should be fine.

[Ariasio]

As far as I know, those should be fine.

Fantastic! That's all I wanted to know. Thank you all for your time.