Eyes Below/Above Fake Floor

Hindsight2020 · Post by **Hindsight2020** » Sat May 05, 2018 6:19 pm

ARGH. I think I'm doing it right, but nothing happens when I dive into the water or surface, I just stay in the same sector. Can anyone point me to a WIKI article that gives some examples or a better explanation of how to use these things?

I've got the Thing ednum 9993/9992 in the sector to be activated, 77 telelport group action, a source teleport (Z Height) and a destination. Still nothing.

Post by **Kappes Buur** » Sun May 06, 2018 12:17 am

Perhaps my example pwad will help you out

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Hindsight2020 · Post by **Hindsight2020** » Sun May 06, 2018 7:45 am

Unfortunately I still am not getting any results. Maybe because I'm using 3d floors for the swimable area and not transfer heights? But 3d floor still creates a fake floor, right? Either way I tried transfer heights but that just caused more problems. The affect I'm going for is an underwater area different than what is above, like in KDiZD. This is getting so frustrating because I've copied KDiZD to a T, except using 3d Floors instead. I'll try getting Transfer Heights to work and report back.

*EDIT: SUCCESS! It was the 3D Floors vs Transfer Heights. Just took a little fidgeting to get it to work. I'm so rusty because I've been away from this for a couple years. Thanks for the help!

Post by **Gez** » Sun May 06, 2018 10:45 am

Hindsight2020 wrote:But 3d floor still creates a fake floor, right?

No, they create a real floor. The fake floor stuff is older and dates from when 3D floors weren't supported by the engine, so you had to fake it with other effects.

Hindsight2020 · Post by **Hindsight2020** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:39 pm

Then is there a newer way to achieve the same affect without using eyes above/below? Or is that why these features are still around?

Post by **Kappes Buur** » Tue May 08, 2018 2:12 am

Of course, this could have been accomplished with only one Transfer_Height sector. The only reason I used that many was to get a rough brightness gradient to total darkness as you fall down the well.

Hindsight2020 wrote:Then is there a newer way to achieve the same affect without using eyes above/below? Or is that why these features are still around?

I don't know if this is newer, instead of using fake floors (Transfer Heights or 3D floors) and thing type 9993 (Eyes below fake floor) you could simply use thing type 9999 (Actor hits Floor) with a Teleport special.

Spoiler:

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