[Fixed] Just Second Macil Version Bug

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by randi » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:03 pm

Fixed.

by Graf Zahl » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:24 pm

That should do it:

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//============================================================================
//
// AMacil2 :: TakeSpecialDamage
//
// The second version of Macil can only be hurt by the second sigil stage or higher
//
//============================================================================

int AMacil2::TakeSpecialDamage (AActor *inflictor, AActor *source, int damage, int damagetype)
{
	ASigil * sigil = source->FindInventory<ASigil>();
	if (!sigil || sigil->NumPieces<2) return -1;
	return damage;
}

by Deathlike2 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:03 pm

*sigh* Never mind... doing some retesting shows that I was having a hard time killing the Oracle with the first Sigil simply because it is an unfocused lightning attack...

by Graf Zahl » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:51 pm

Deathlike2 wrote: If you understood the fact that Macil is a "Specter".. then the following applies. He is invulnerable to every weapon. This is different because ALL WEAPONS, including the 1st Sigil piece pass through him (The specters are not immune to the 1st piece, but all other weapons pass through them). Since you know that you need to have at least the 2nd Sigil piece before an important fork in the story occurs, you at minimum will need the 2nd Sigil piece in order to kill him (which is instant since the Sigil is too powerful anyhow). In essense, Macil is a modified Spectre that is just immune to the 1st Sigil piece and is able to talk to you... The interesting thing about Specter is that although you are unable to hit them with weapons other than a Sigil, you can phyiscally touch them (as in you are able to bump into them).

Which in terms of coding is precisely the same as the Oracle. He can only be hurt when the player has the second piece of the Sigil. The rest is taken care of automatically by the SPECTRAL flag.

by Deathlike2 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:42 pm

TheDarkArchon wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote: (which is instant since the Sigil is too powerful anyhow).
:shock: Aside from the first part, I think the Sigil is mostly underpowered.
Well, that depends what you are using it for. For essentially every enemy other than the Specters and Entities, then no. Otherwise, you are correct.

by TheDarkArchon » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:56 am

Deathlike2 wrote: (which is instant since the Sigil is too powerful anyhow).
:shock: Aside from the first part, I think the Sigil is mostly underpowered.

by Deathlike2 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:52 am

Graf Zahl wrote:I think the same is true for the second version of Macil.
This is half true.

I did a little more experimenting.. and this is what I came up with.

The Oracle is invulnerable to every possible weapon, including the 1st Sigil piece. This is not true until you have the 2nd Sigil piece. He is very much vulnerable to everything once you have acquired it. This is a check to what Sigil level you have.. not necessarily whether or not you have completed the Bishop quest (well, you'd have to cheat to have found that out).

For the second Macil version, this is different altogether.

If you understood the fact that Macil is a "Specter".. then the following applies. He is invulnerable to every weapon. This is different because ALL WEAPONS, including the 1st Sigil piece pass through him (The specters are not immune to the 1st piece, but all other weapons pass through them). Since you know that you need to have at least the 2nd Sigil piece before an important fork in the story occurs, you at minimum will need the 2nd Sigil piece in order to kill him (which is instant since the Sigil is too powerful anyhow). In essense, Macil is a modified Spectre that is just immune to the 1st Sigil piece and is able to talk to you... The interesting thing about Specter is that although you are unable to hit them with weapons other than a Sigil, you can phyiscally touch them (as in you are able to bump into them).

So... I hope you understand now how it works...

by Graf Zahl » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:28 am

I think the same is true for the second version of Macil.

[98] Just Second Macil Version Bug

by Deathlike2 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:15 am

The Oracle is supposed to be invulnerable until you have completed the Bishop quest.

In ZDoom, you can kill the Oracle even before ever talking to him...

Edit: Changed title to reflect new information.
Edit2: Changed it again....

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