ZDoom

Even the online scoreboard is totally impracticable if you think what's needed for it.

Considering that you need a web server for it to work it will limit it to a rather small amount of mappers. Considering even more that many players here don't care about stuff like this makes it a rather unappealing feature. And now considering that this 'feature' suggests that each mapper has to code this shit for himself makes it DOA.

End result: Forget it! It's a total waste of time.

I nolonger want the wad to update, I just want the online scoreboard. That ZSteam idea is scary!

EDIT: BTW, ^ has a good idea

That's the way it should be! ;)

[quote="Enjay"]Even a second "Randy's considered this" forum...[/quote]

Closed Feature Suggestions

[done]
[won't do]
[duplicate]
and, of course,
[not a feature suggestion]
:)

Finally some common sense is entering this discussion. :P

I seriously(tm) can't think of ANY use for this. There [i]could[/i] be a check for wad updates but that shouldn't happen in the wad via ACS.

Hey, that was a neat idea!!!

[quote="Graf Zahl"]When Enjay starts to rant it gets funny! ;)[/quote]

:lol: It wasn't really intended to be a rant, but I guess it did sort of turn out that way. :)

[quote="Graf Zahl"]IMO it's time to close this thread or move it to another forum. As a feature suggestion it is worthless but if some people here are intent on discussing it further I think this is the wrong place for it.[/quote]

Which begs the question - is there any system for moving the suggestions on? Once we've kicked it around and knocked the stuffing out of it - what then?

Even a second "Randy's considered this" forum where Randy uses, I dunno, [yes] [no] and [maybe] tags in the title? That way there would be some feedback and we'd know whether any particular suggestion was being considered or not. :idea:


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When Enjay starts to rant it gets funny! ;)

But seriously, I couldn't agree more. But from looking at this thread it is obvious that there are some people who seem to stick to their stupid ideas until the bitter end.

But the most idiotic thing about all this is not the idea itself, it's to implement it in [b]ACS[/b]! If this was a feature of the engine it might have some (very limited) value but for each mapper to code it by himself is just plain stupid to the most extreme degree.

IMO it's time to close this thread or move it to another forum. As a feature suggestion it is worthless but if some people here are intent on discussing it further I think this is the wrong place for it.

I don't see this actually getting any worthwhile, real use. It's a pie in the sky idea with no real practical or realistic use. The user base and people interested in developing for it would simply be too small.

Database and updating maps? Be realistic. That's just not going to happen. It would involve all the map authors putting the net code into their behavior lumps and somebody maintaining the version numbers - somehow. Do you see most map authors wanting to do that? And yes, Zdoom Steam sums it up very nicely.

All the other suggestions (what "all") eg the scroeboard. Well, what scores do you have in mind? Zdoom doesn't have a scoring system in regular play. Frags? Use Zdaemon. It's already established and doesn't use an ACS modification. So, were looking at a score board for the 2 or 3 wads that might come out with some kind of scoring implemented, and a complimentary online scoreboard. Not gonna happen. Or if it does, it will rise, have its moment in the sun and then just fall by the wayside.

I really don't see this being used to any great extent, if at all. Perhaps one or two people might use it as an example, to show it can be done, and then it will simply become an unused feature with no online database, no scoreboard, no nothing to support it. More effort than it's worth to implement. Especially when Randy has many other things to consider and work on. Things that people will actually use and benefit from.

In the highly unlikely, snowball's chance in hell, thrown by a flying pig as he crossed in front of a blue moon, after a month of Sundays event that it did get implemented, then I'd simply set my firewall to stop Zdoom accessing the internet and the feature would cease to exist for me anyway. :P

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[quote="Xaser"]I don't really like this idea, for this reason: I have dialup.

Not only would it lag like hell for me, but it would also require me to connect to the internet every time I want the wad to run porperly. IMO, it's just not worth it.[/quote]


Which is the main reason I don't like this idea. Apart from having very limited use in relation to a rather large amount of time in addition to an extremely high risk of abuse makes this a complete nightmare and I honestly can't imagine that Randy might even consider adding this to ZDoom.

To be blunt: It's nonsense dreamt up by people who don't have a clue what this means.


And yes, ZDoom Steam sums it up perfectly!

Great.... Zdoom steam....

I don't really like this idea, for this reason: I have dialup.

Not only would it lag like hell for me, but it would also require me to connect to the internet every time I want the wad to run porperly. IMO, it's just not worth it.

I support it oh great programmer dude!

don't even argue wiht him. it's pointless. we at vectec know what works and what doesn't. :P