ZDoom

[quote="Kinsie"]Quick-n-dirty test to get some ideas going.[/quote]
I actually really like the look of those. However, using D for Doom, while sensible and consistent with the others, with the current connotations of "getting/wanting the D" (etc), I'm not convinced it's the best choice. ;) The whole word would work better for Doom anyway IMO simply because that D is set up to be the opposite side "bookend" to the M in DooM and it looks a bit weird on its own.

[quote="drfrag"]GZDoom now uses the border flat as console background.[/quote]
Which I actually think of as quite an inspired choice. It seems so obvious now that I don't know why no one had thought about it before Graf hit on the idea. It must have been a real "doh!, of course" moment.

GZDoom now uses the border flat as console background.

Quick-n-dirty test to get some ideas going.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/SmHkq2Z.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/6ToqjBV.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/pQGHsHI.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/oJqqDez.png[/img]

[quote="Scuba Steve"]I was bored and started playing around with some ideas. Most likely nothing final and they'll need a lot more work to fit properly, but thought I would post before I go any farther.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tEYfIBC6msMpGVQdZ5XjeJrrGdQazwOR?usp=sharing[/quote]
I'm thinking about including those in LZDoom, they are already widescreen (16:10) and look good ingame (at least at 16:9 and assets will be optional). The only thing left is the license i think.

Definitely, but I didn't want to tinker with it until I knew more about implementation.

Steve: I suggest darkening the entire images a little more, to aid readability of the actual console text on top of those.

These look quite good but are lacking proper widescreen support. Any CONBACK image should be adaptable to the important screen sizes without stretching.

I'll hold off on refining them until I know how they will be handled... but I figured I'd jump-start the conversation by making samples.

The simplest would be a simple tiling pattern so that we don't have to care about aspect ratio, and the logo displayed on the top.


With your bordered pictures, I think the best would be to have a system like the one in place for screen borders: separate elements for angles, tiling elements for the non-angle sides, tiling element for the interior, and the logo. Then the engine can construct the background automatically for any aspect ratio.

I'll just let you do with them as you please, whatever license that might be. The only question is, how would individualized console backs work? Like widescreen where they are centered but more is exposed based on the width of the screen? Multiple different sized variants? Stretched?

Those are actually pretty cool, I think those have a high chance of inclusion when they are completed. :)

What are you planning on licensing as? Seeing as how they seem to include some derivative assets, they will have to be distributed with the game support archive.

I was bored and started playing around with some ideas. Most likely nothing final and they'll need a lot more work to fit properly, but thought I would post before I go any farther.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tEYfIBC6msMpGVQdZ5XjeJrrGdQazwOR?usp=sharing

[quote="Graf Zahl"]My idea would be something like Quake: The game's logo embossed into a mostly neutral background that could have different structure fitting the games[/quote]
For reference:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/CtykuLc.png[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/IZt0CIo.png[/img]

Doom 1, Doom 2, Plutonia, TNT, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Chex Quest should be there. Hacx and Harmony would be nice - the rest is less important.
I think a single Doom graphic would be a bit lame. My idea would be something like Quake: The game's logo embossed into a mostly neutral background that could have different structure fitting the games - preferably at a somewhat higher resolution than 320x200 and of course fully widescreen compatible.

And it should be clear that these images go into the game_support.pk3 file so that they can use the games' original assets as a base.
Agreed about the generic fallback - it'd be better than dimming the screen with a solid color. This would go into gzdoom.pk3 then.

Now all we need is someone willing to create these things. ;)

[quote="Rachael"]I was thinking of those blue computer tiles, except a) not actually those, b) look like those, but more gray or a neutral color, possibly blue-gray, and c) not actually tiled, but generated to cover an entire 320x200 area.[/quote]
Extending that to the other games, a similar "not too noisy but game-characteristic" graphic for each game could be identified and used as an inspiration for each background. How many would be [i]needed[/i]? Doom (all variants), Heretic, Hexen, Strife? Beyond that, I think they might be "nice to have" grapics, but less essential.

Perhaps, instead of Graf's idea of dimming the screen, an utterly generic graphic could be made as a non-specific fallback.

[edit]By "Doom (all variants)" I meant that, as a minimum, we'd only need one graphic for all Doom games - one for each would be nice, but not essential.[/edit]