Customizable default map marker color

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Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:51 pm

Yes.
They were only provided in Doom.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by StroggVorbis » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:37 pm

Last time I checked, map markers do not work in Heretic & Hexen, is this related to the absence of graphic lumps?

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:39 am

Regarding input, I would have hijacked the input handler for the network chat feature. (Yes, that annoying one you trigger with the T key.)

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Nash » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:19 am

Graf Zahl wrote:I think if this gets changed it should really be improved, i.e. lift the limit of 10 marks and more importantly, let the user add custom text to their marks. THEN this will be a really helpful feature.
Out of curiosity, how would the custom text have been implemented? Would the user press the "mark" button, and then a dialog box pops up prompting the user to type the name of the marker?

_mental_, just for discussion sake, I disagree that whatever Graf proposed is a useless complication. Speaking from a player perspective, I can definitely see it being more useful to apply custom labels to map markers.

For example, just by looking at a map, it's more informative to see "unreachable soulsphere here" rather than memorize what is 1, 2, 3, 4, etc...

But of course, I understand the meaning of "amount of development time spent VS amount of benefit gained" aspect of things and I respect that. :) I am simply throwing in my two cents. At any rate, even with your latest PR, it is already a huge improvement.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Rachael » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:11 pm

The PR got merged. Is it complete enough to cover the bases to mark this thread as [Added]?

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by _mental_ » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:08 am

OK, here is a new PR.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:22 am

We do not need a font selector, what we need is a CVAR that takes a string so that the user can change the font to anything they want. The menu can just remain as simple as it was with the 3 obvious choices: BigFont, SmallFont and ConsoleFont.

Considering that I currently spend most time on improving the font system, I find it a bit counterproductive to have such an option limited to a few defaults.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by _mental_ » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:59 am

Here is the list of font names created with Doom II IWAD loaded

Code: Select all

indexfont
ConsoleFont
BigFont
SmallFont
IntermissionFont_Doom
INDEXFONT_STRIFE_GREEN
INDEXFONT_STRIFE_YELLOW
INDEXFONT_DOOM
INDEXFONT_RAVEN
HUDFONT_RAVEN
HUDFONT_DOOM
Apparently, it's not user friendly and requires some filtering. And the question is how to do that.

Honestly, I cannot comprehend the importance of any sophisticated solution for automap marks.
I spent three times more on a font selector menu item than on my initial implementation of color/font customization.
With the exception of ability to choose own font for marks, it's a pretty useless complication.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:39 am

The least I'd like to see is to specify the font by name. Specifying it as an index is not going to fly.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Gez » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:28 am

And we see once again that perfect is the enemy of good.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:49 am

Ok, then...

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by _mental_ » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:39 am

Because these changes suite all my needs.

Marks' size and color are the main issue, not a "typeface" itself.
The default "font" is too old school for me, it will look like crap even with color translation.
I'm using only 2 or 3 marks at the same time.

Sorry, all these improvements are completely useless to me. I'm fine if someone else will do them.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Graf Zahl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:06 am

Why a number and not a font name? That's needlessly limiting.
In that case we could also convert the original markers into a custom font and allow color translations on them as well.
I think if this gets changed it should really be improved, i.e. lift the limit of 10 marks and more importantly, let the user add custom text to their marks. THEN this will be a really helpful feature.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by _mental_ » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:57 am

IMHO the default mark's font is ugly as hell. It was OK for a very limited set of automap colors and 320x200 resolution in nineties, but not now.
While keeping it by default, I made this PR to choose between small and big fonts for automap marks, and to select their text color.

Re: Customizable default map marker color

by Enjay » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:35 pm

I wonder if they can have selectable colour translations applied like other graphics/fonts? Even if the colour choice was more limited than the full choice available for automap lines etc, being able to pick something other than the almost invisible grey would be nice.

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