by sinisterseed » Fri May 22, 2020 6:49 am
Enjay wrote:lowskill. wrote:purist
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of the loud-voiced self-styled "purists" shaping, moulding and bending what is done in the community to their will. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be due consideration for the preservation of Doom traditions and styles, but so many of these "purists" arguments are just unnecessary obstacles to progression where both the old and the new can usually happily co-exist anyway.
In this case, if someone is getting upset that a key that they don't have to use (and which can be turned off mod-side for any mod made after that was a possibility) has a default binding, then I really don't care. As far as I'm concerned, they are being irrational and selfish (as they so often are). If they are getting that pissy about it, why are they even playing GZDoom in the first place? Oh, that's right, the rules of "purism" alter from person to person anyway.
Of course, the above rant is all a bit straw man because no purist has actually raised the objection in this case (yet). I've just reached a point where my patience has run out with "but the purists won't like it" arguments - especially when its a case that the purists can easily not use the feature and all that they are doing is being offended on behalf of a potential new player who "won't get the true Doom experience".
The purists may be loud, but their opinion is no more important or valid than the (probable) majority of other users who are not lying on the floor screaming and drumming their heels in a tantrum.
Well that escalated quickly.
It wasn't my intention to ignite the flames though, I was just trying to make a point but I must've worded it quite poorly. What I was trying to raise was the simple fact that there's no such thing as a perfect default configuration, no matter what it is, some will just not be pleased about it - some of those yes, being purists, admittedly -, and each one for different reasons. It just seems that the topic of "ZDoom defaults" somehow manages to pop-up periodically, as it recently did once more on DW...
Can't say I have much sympathy for that attitude either, especially when it's used in defense of not doing proper research about the port in question, its features, and not being bothered to do a literally 2 minute research about "jumping/freelook in classic Doom", for instance.
The best configuration is
your personal setup, ultimately. I'm content with the current defaults, the addition of ESDF is probably the only one that could make some sense to implement.
[quote="Enjay"][quote="lowskill."]purist[/quote]
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of the loud-voiced self-styled "purists" shaping, moulding and bending what is done in the community to their will. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be due consideration for the preservation of Doom traditions and styles, but so many of these "purists" arguments are just unnecessary obstacles to progression where both the old and the new can usually happily co-exist anyway.
In this case, if someone is getting upset that a key that they don't have to use (and which can be turned off mod-side for any mod made after that was a possibility) has a default binding, then I really don't care. As far as I'm concerned, they are being irrational and selfish (as they so often are). If they are getting that pissy about it, why are they even playing GZDoom in the first place? Oh, that's right, the rules of "purism" alter from person to person anyway.
Of course, the above rant is all a bit straw man because no purist has actually raised the objection in this case (yet). I've just reached a point where my patience has run out with "but the purists won't like it" arguments - especially when its a case that the purists can easily not use the feature and all that they are doing is being offended on behalf of a potential new player who "won't get the true Doom experience".
The purists may be loud, but their opinion is no more important or valid than the (probable) majority of other users who are not lying on the floor screaming and drumming their heels in a tantrum.[/quote]
Well that escalated quickly.
It wasn't my intention to ignite the flames though, I was just trying to make a point but I must've worded it quite poorly. What I was trying to raise was the simple fact that there's no such thing as a perfect default configuration, no matter what it is, some will just not be pleased about it - some of those yes, being purists, admittedly -, and each one for different reasons. It just seems that the topic of "ZDoom defaults" somehow manages to pop-up periodically, as it recently did once more on DW...
Can't say I have much sympathy for that attitude either, especially when it's used in defense of not doing proper research about the port in question, its features, and not being bothered to do a literally 2 minute research about "jumping/freelook in classic Doom", for instance.
The best configuration is [b][i]your personal setup[/i][/b], ultimately. I'm content with the current defaults, the addition of ESDF is probably the only one that could make some sense to implement.