Look at what I found! (Super Sergeant Shooter 2)

[DoomSplitter]

Look at what I found while surfing the web:

Spoiler:

Play it here.
It seems to be a new game based off of a flash port of Doom. It even still has a few of the sounds and graphics from the original shareware Iwad. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere before, so I thought I'd share it with you guys.

Edit:Looks like they made a zombie shooter with the doom engine as well. The developer's page is filled with fps games, I wonder how many of them are using the doom engine?

[Springy]

I have never even seen this either, a lost gem perhaps? I will have to check this out, screenie looks quite good.

[DoomSplitter]

The controls are kinda weird (use is ctrl and the spacebar is used to shoot), but they're pretty neat little games. Nothing special, but interesting nonetheless.

[Edward-san]

someone should contact id about this...

[Enjay]

Not a bad little game. It was a bit clumsy to play by virtue of how the thing is delivered but not bad. The Doom cheats even work and when you use them you get a chainsaw.


Now, how long 'til the sprites are ripped.

[ChronoSeth]

Hm... am I the only one who noticed that the maps look like they were generated with OBLIGE?

[Xaser]

The sprites aren't half bad at all, though the cutoffs when bobbing are funny.

Wonder how many of the graphics are original. O_O

[EDIT] The maps are definitely edited OBLIGE maps.

[Gez]

Now, how long 'til the sprites are ripped.

Well, you'd need someone with an SWF ripper to get the .wad file out of it. The only SWF rippers that I know of that are available for free (as demo usually) only look for some specific types of resources, such as images, and will overlook unknown data types, like a big binary blob would be.

[Apothem]

Would using adobe flash work? Or do you need something else in order to 'decompile' it?

[Enjay]

I just used 7zip to extract the WAD. However, something isn't right because although I had the files, nothing was able to read it as a WAD.

[_mental_]

Demo version of Flash Decompiler Trillix http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ can extract binary resources from SWFs.
For example the SWF file of Super Sergeant Shooter 2 contains one binary resource which is actually PWAD for Doom 1.

[Gez]

Ooh, nifty! I didn't know 7zip could do it. Who cares about demo versions of silly programs then?

You just need to open it in a hex editor and remove the few useless bytes that are at the start of the file, before PWAD.

Here's the full collection in WAD format, for the curious. "Super Shooters" in Sergeant, Sergeant 2, Sergent 2 level pack, and Zombie flavors. Include plenty of uncleaned leftover bits from Doom.

Heh, if it weren't for the OBLIGE maps, someone could clean them up and upload them to /idgames.

Edit: Link modified to cleaned-out version.

[Enjay]

Thanks for doing that. Although they feature Oblige levels and some of them seem to only have one enemy type (and the Zombies are oversized in the Zombie one) these aren't bad little mods and some of the graphical content seems original - at least it's new to me.

[Edward-san]

Wait, is it legal (the game, not the wad gathering)? O_o

[Gez]

Technically, nope. It's distributing copyrighted assets without a permission.

Of course, most of those are not seen while playing. You have to have people downloading the flash, extracting it with 7zip, and then extracting it again from the embedded flash, and finally extracting them from the resulting .wad file.

Even worse, it's mostly needless. He doesn't use most of them, so he could have replaced them with blank images or removed them entirely. But he's probably not a very effort-intensive fellow, what with the Oblige levels... Heh, the only image lumps that have been replaced by blanks are those that correspond to stuff he didn't want to see displayed, like the "you got the shotgun" messages.