Doom with Roland SC-55

[Cyberdemon87]

Hello everyone.
I'd like to ask if there is a version of Doom out there that has the game's music integrated-emulated with the SC-55 and if not, if that is even possible without having the actual hardware.

It would be really great for the all the fans to actually play the game with the music as it was supposed to be, and not in midi.

Sorry if it's a noobish question but I'd kill to re-play Doom 1 and 2 with this "enhancement".


Thanks for your time!

[wildweasel]

Well, if you are running Windows, you (on a very superficial level) at least already have the SC-55 sample set; the MS GS Synthesizer that is included with Windows uses Roland's samples, if I remember correctly. Unfortunately, I do not know of any actual Sound Canvas emulators; the closest match I can think of is MUNT, which emulates a Roland MT-32 (which does not use the same set of samples at all).

It should be noted, though, that Sound Canvas is still "MIDI."

[0mnicydle]

The best option for this that I have found is to use mudlord's VST driver found on his site along with the VSTi plugin (VSC.dll) from the Roland Virtual Sound Canvas Multi Pack (model VSC-MP1) software synth, which is a an old official Roland product which almost perfectly emulates an SC-55. Search for "EDIROL Virtual Sound Canvas VSTi v1.60" for more info. It is hard to find these days, and for the most part it doesn't work on modern systems, especially any 64-bit operating systems, but all you need from it is the previously mentioned DLL file, and with mudlord's VST driver I have been able to get it working well on both Win 7 and Win 8 64-bit. I cannot stress enough how close this sounds to an actual SC-55.

The second best option is to use the BASSMIDI driver also by mudlord, along with a soundfont which mimics the Roland style sound. The best one I have found is named "GS sound set (16 bit).SF2", though to be honest FMOD in ZDoom isn't too far off from this option and you are probably better off sticking with that unless you want that kind of sound in all your MIDI using programs. Mudlord's BASSMIDI driver is completely solid in Win 7 but doesn't work too well in Win 8. You can use CoolSoft VirtualMIDISynth in Win 8 to accomplish the same thing.

[Cyberdemon87]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Wildweasel, it seems a bit hard to do all this by myself. I'd like to ask, if you'd send me all the files as they are on your pc will it work on mine?

If that's not possible, do you mind telling here or sending me a pm with steps/walkthrough on how to do it when you have the time? Sorry if I bother you.

[wildweasel]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Wildweasel, it seems a bit hard to do all this by myself. I'd like to ask, if you'd send me all the files as they are on your pc will it work on mine?

If that's not possible, do you mind telling here or sending me a pm with steps/walkthrough on how to do it when you have the time? Sorry if I bother you.

I do not have the files needed, and have not installed MUNT in years, so I wouldn't be of much help there.

[0mnicydle]

I wouldn't even bother with MUNT, the Doom soundtrack sounds not so good on a real MT-32, and downright bizarre in MUNT. Even the default Windows synth would be better than that if you are after the SC-55 sound. The default Windows synth uses actual Roland Sound Canvas samples.

If you are looking for a super authentic as possible without getting the real thing SC-55 sound, and you are using Windows, it's really very simple. Just install the VST MIDI Driver from the site I linked to earlier, point it to VSC.dll, then from within ZDoom select a VST port as your MIDI device. Voila! That's it!

[Xtyfe]

Has anyone recorded Doom music from real SC-55 hardware into mp3 format? There is a pack for Duke3D but surprisingly not one for Doom

[Flynn Taggart]

Has anyone recorded Doom music from real SC-55 hardware into mp3 format? There is a pack for Duke3D but surprisingly not one for Doom

There are packs for Doom and Doom II over at The Doomsday Engine site's add-on section. But you need a torrent client to download the files such as BitTorrent.

Link to the Doomsday Engine add-ons section: http://dengine.net/addons

[0mnicydle]

For anyone who is interested, I put together a pack of recordings comparing a real SC-55 versus the default Windows synth, BASSMIDI using the aforementioned soundfont, and the Virtual Sound Canvas VSTi.

[Cyberdemon87]

Maybe a stupid question. What if someone actually downloads/rips the original released Doom & Doom 2 soundtracks by Bobby Prince in loseless quality (ogg/flac/whatever) and creates a music pack for use with the games? Would something like that be possible?



....I would kill to play the game listening to this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

[Xtyfe]

Has anyone recorded Doom music from real SC-55 hardware into mp3 format? There is a pack for Duke3D but surprisingly not one for Doom

There are packs for Doom and Doom II over at The Doomsday Engine site's add-on section. But you need a torrent client to download the files such as BitTorrent.

Link to the Doomsday Engine add-ons section: http://dengine.net/addons

Awesome, thanks

[Cyberdemon87]

Maybe a stupid question. What if someone actually downloads/rips the original released Doom & Doom 2 soundtracks by Bobby Prince in loseless quality (ogg/flac/whatever) and creates a music pack for use with the games? Would something like that be possible?



....I would kill to play the game listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

Bump! Anyone?

[Hellser]

Yes, it's possible by renaming the flacs/ogg/whatever into the name of the original song; D_E1M1, D_RUNNING, ect. To save space, it would be a good idea to use mapinfo. The trick is, getting everything to loop. I wouldn't recommend MP3 (lacks proper looping) and FLAC is a bit too large. That narrows it down to OGG.

[Cyberdemon87]

Great, it would be really nice to see it done by someone who knows..

[Zenon]

If its any help, I think I know where you can get a SC-55 Soundfont

Edit: Here is one