OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

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OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby blackfish » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:23 am

In the WIP thread MAXed posted a hack that allowed ENBSeries style bloom into Doom. I had more questions for Blox regarding the SSAO issues I'm having w/o derailing the thread.

MaxED wrote:I used this

A short instruction if someone is intedested:
1. Place QeffectsGL.ini and opengl32.dll in your GZDoom folder.
2. Open QeffectsGL.ini and add following section after [Generic]:
Spoiler:

(GZDoom crashes on startup if Multisampling or Anisotropy is enabled)
3. Tweak various settings to your liking.
4. Launch GZDoom as usual.



@Blox Im trying to use the settings you have but it just creates really dark rooms. Is there something Im missing?
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Re: Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Blox » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:57 am

Could you post a screenshot and the full .ini? Just being curious.
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Re: Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby blackfish » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:12 am

I fixed it. For NVIDIA users, DO NOT USE BETA DRIVERS. I went back to 306.97 and SSAO works properly. In the beta drivers the SSAO was creating some black void effect, darkening the whole map.
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Re: Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby MaxED » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:16 am

Blox wrote:Could you post a screenshot

Here you go :)

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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby MaxED » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:19 am

And now, a bit more reasonable settings:

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[gzdoom.exe]
Anisotropy=0
Multisample=0
Bloom=1
BloomSteps=8
BloomDarken=8
BloomScale=8
SSAO=1
SSAOScale=1.0
Saturation=-32
Lightness=-10
Emboss=0
DOF=1
DOFMinZ=0.005
DOFSpeed=0.75
DOFScale=3.0
RenderFrame=1
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Saya-chan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:47 am

I wish a Linux port of this was possible. It looks promising. (although it will probably get as much hate as ENB does)
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Re: Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Jimmy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:52 am

MaxED wrote:
Blox wrote:Could you post a screenshot

Here you go :)

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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Nash » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:28 am

Copy paste for completeness' sake:

MaxED wrote:
Nash wrote:Is anyone else having problems with SSAO being drawn in front of sprites? I have the latest nvidia drivers but it still happens.


Qeffects developer mentoined that this may be happening because sprites geometry is not written to depth buffer in GZDoom. Other interesting thing to note is that this problem doesn't occure in Zandronum.


It's a shame because I find SSAO to not be a viable option for regular gameplay use because it is drawing in front of sprites. Also...

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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby PlayerLin » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:46 am

Personally, don't like many bad setting of bloom effects like the first one MaxED did and ruined it totally.
(Whatever game is, do it over shining or bright just stupid, many HDR effects also do such thing.)
Even the second one it still give me some bad feelsg but, not too bad, it still good for looking, just...uh,...feels weird...
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Sergeant_Mark_IV » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:09 am

Hey guys, what are you talking aboo... oomguuahhhhhhhhheeeeee this is awesome!
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby esselfortium » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:42 pm

I've experimented around with this a bit, and it's definitely a nifty set of effects. It's not usable in GZDoom for anything outside of novelty value at the moment, though, given the absolute mess that it makes of skies, titlepic and HUD stuff, and other things that really shouldn't be made a mess of. If something like this could be implemented into GZDoom in a way that mappers and modders can more directly control, it'd be worthwhile even for just the occlusion alone, which adds a lot of nice depth to a scene (a la Doomsday's fake radiosity) when it's not being visibly buggy and bizarre. :P

This is with the "reasonable" settings posted in the thread:
Spoiler: AaaaaaaaAAAAAAaAaaAA
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Sergeant_Mark_IV » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:59 pm

For now we have the following problems:

- Everything is too green.
- The SSAO draws scenario stuff in your automap.
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby blackfish » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:08 pm

esselfortium wrote:I've experimented around with this a bit, and it's definitely a nifty set of effects. It's not usable in GZDoom for anything outside of novelty value at the moment, though, given the absolute mess that it makes of skies, titlepic and HUD stuff, and other things that really shouldn't be made a mess of. If something like this could be implemented into GZDoom in a way that mappers and modders can more directly control, it'd be worthwhile even for just the occlusion alone, which adds a lot of nice depth to a scene (a la Doomsday's fake radiosity) when it's not being visibly buggy and bizarre. :P



Bloomscale is too much for me in those settings. Try 1 for bloomscale and 2 for darken, which is what I use, and restore lighting to 0. It's a bit less intense that way. Anyone else think emboss is worth it? Or am I crazy?

Im using this at the moment (after forever of tweaking). I'm probably going to turn off SSAO.

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[gzdoom.exe]
Anisotropy=0
Multisample=0
Bloom=1
BloomDarken=2
BloomScale=1
SSAO=1
SSAOScale=2
Saturation=-5
Emboss=1
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Re: OpenGL Hack Bloom in GZdoom (Continued Discussion)

Postby Enjay » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:18 pm

It's good fun to mess with this stuff. I like quite subtle settings but it's fun to crank it up to silly values just for the hell of it too. It's a shame that SSAO doesn't work. If you make the effect quite bold (so that things look almost cell shaded) the effect being drawn over the HUD weapons looks almost like the weapons have some strange sort of translucency where the black lines at the edge of architecture breaks show through but nothing else does.

blackfish wrote:Anyone else think emboss is worth it? Or am I crazy?

Yes, I like the emboss. Again, I keep it subtle but it can have quite a nice look with some textures.
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