[SPRITES] Spriting Carnival!!

[osjclatchford]

quake2 grenadelauncher anyone?

yes it needs work. the drum is a little stale looking and the pickup a bit of a lash-up but feel free to work on it and use it!

[Captain J]

Excellent franken-spriting, never thought of that before! Anyway, i've fixed your launcher a bit;

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I've fixed its muzzle and shape to make it retrospectively and recolored the grenade to make it similar to Quake 2 Grenade launcher's grenade. Looks better?

[Ghastly]

Well done, both of you! That looks awesome!

[Dr_Cosmobyte]

Well done, both of you! That looks awesome!

Second that. I'm making my version tonight.

[osjclatchford]

@captain j muzzle is good but shame it is missing brown tones.
But must say Drum is an absolute big old mess makes no sense at all... mind you it is messy on mine a bit too. Needs a complete rethink methinks...

[Carbine Dioxide]

Tried to make it a bit more like the original. Could use a lot of work towards the back, and we also might need a bigger slug to fit into the damn thing.

[Captain J]

Nice editing, i could't manage to edit it yet so it's good for us!

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And yet, have some fixes!

@captain j muzzle is good but shame it is missing brown tones.

That was intentional, because i always thought why are they brown colored unlike other alpha weapons. Because of reflect, maybe? But still, you might turn them into brown if you want.

[VriskaSerket]

A'ight. I've got a different model and tried it out, the textures loaded fine. The problem is, the view model is split in two, so...
Regardless, if anyone wishes to properly Doom-ify this, feel free.

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Here's a little quick example with no real edits:

If anyone can give me a reference I can try to get the angle right for the right-handed one.

[torridgristle]

A'ight. I've got a different model and tried it out, the textures loaded fine. The problem is, the view model is split in two, so...
Regardless, if anyone wishes to properly Doom-ify this, feel free.

It would be a lot easier to Doomify it if it had lighting and shadows. Get Blender, check out Minigunner's tutorial, and stick with it for a day or so. The tutorial doesn't cover basics so I'll try to get the stuff I needed to figure out listed.

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You select things with right click, so in the new document right click on the cube to select it and then hit Delete on your keyboard, confirm it. On the upper right there's a window that lists what's in the scene. Select the camera, go to the window underneath that and look for a tab with an orange cube for an icon. Open the Transform menu and set the location to 0 for all axis, 90 rotation on X but 0 for all the others. Now your camera is in the centre of the scene and facing forward. Repeat the process for the light, but you don't have to adjust the rotation since it's just a radial light source and rotation means nothing for it. Now the light is in the centre as well and you understand how to move it. Get a model from somewhere, I like p3dm.ru since they've got some game rips, and go to File -> Import -> OBJ (assuming the model is OBJ format, and it often is) and import the model. If it's really big you'll need to scale it down, or if it's very small you'll need to scale it up, to make things easier. Under the Transform menu there's Scale information, just adjust that until the model is like 2 or 3 squares big on the grid. I don't know if there's an optimum size, it's just what I've been doing as a new user. Adjust the rotation so that it's pointing away from the camera and also zero out the location. Now on the bottom left you'll see "View Select Add Object", click View and click Camera. Now you'll probably be inside the model, so select the camera in the upper right Scene list and pull the Y location back to pull the camera backward, and push the Z location up to move the camera up.

Now to put the textures on the model. On the bottom of the screen to the right of the View menu from earlier there's a dropdown menu that should display a white orb icon. Open it up and select Material. This will show the model with textures and shading. Select the model in the scene list, then select the checkerboard tab in the window under it (you may need to expand the window horizontally to reveal it). It may already have some textures defined, that's fine. Typically a model will come with a diffuse (solid colours, no highlights and shadows) and a normal (blue and red / purple). The diffuse defines the colours for the model, the normal adds detail to the lighting. You'll also see speculars sometimes which define specular colour. To add a texture to a material, go to the list with the checkerboard icons in the Material tab, click one of the entries that doesn't have a name, click New under it. Scroll down to Image, go to Open, and select the texture. If it's a diffuse, it's done. If it's normal, you have to go to Image Sampling and enable Normal and leave it on Tangent, then go down to Influence and uncheck colour and check normal. If it's specular, go to Influence and uncheck Diffuse: Colour and check Specular: Colour. Now go to the Material tab which is to the left of the Texture tab that you're on. The icon is a checkerboard orb. Under diffuse, set it to white. Under specular set it to white, unless you're using a specular map in which case set it to black since the specular texture will define the colours. Adjust the specular hardness to taste, but you'll only really see it change when you set up lights (Minigunner goes over that).

Now to adjust the camera settings. Select the camera in the scene list, select the camera icon in the window under it, under Lens change the dropdown menu for Millimetres to Field of View and set the FOV to like 50-70. It depends on the model, but it seems that Doom's weapons sprites hover around shallower FOVs.

Be sure to render with the aspect ratio X=1 Y=1.2 and keep your resolution to a multiple of 428x200 (16:9 in Doom, aspect ratio adjusted) so that it's scaled down evenly later. I recommend 1712x800.

That should be the basics you need. I know it looks like a lot but after you do it a few times it only takes a minute. Minigunner's tutorial should cover everything else.

[osjclatchford]

Nice editing, i could't manage to edit it yet so it's good for us!

8EP1XEK2.PNG

And yet, have some fixes!

@captain j muzzle is good but shame it is missing brown tones.

That was intentional, because i always thought why are they brown colored unlike other alpha weapons. Because of reflect, maybe? But still, you might turn them into brown if you want.

That's the kidder! Lovely job!

[MetallicaSepultura]

working on a simple scattergun weapon based on the Welrod (and the pistol from Hades 2)
still trying to get the 90's render style, i've tried to change the sprite palette to DOOM, and the result looks a lot like Hacx Shotgun in terms of colors, which is right.

[Luigi2600]

working on a simple scattergun weapon based on the Welrod (and the pistol from Hades 2)
still trying to get the 90's render style, i've tried to change the sprite palette to DOOM, and the result looks a lot like Hacx Shotgun in terms of colors, which is right.

Is that the chick from tomb raider? also amazing job on this, I'd be willing to test this out as a weapon.

[MetallicaSepultura]

Is that the chick from tomb raider? also amazing job on this, I'd be willing to test this out as a weapon.

actually this was a brazilian game, so i highly doubt it and yeah, it would be nice if someone can test my weapons
also, here's a new version of the model in first person, and another WIP weapon.

[osjclatchford]

ok did the rest of the frames then:

features recoil, flash and reload frames, with reinstated brown shade on one side (sorta ambient lighting I guess? it makes it look less mirrored and truth be told this brown shade featured heavily on a lot of the q2 weapons anyhow so I felt it should stay)
also version with hands because why not? (hands not yet shaded between gun and glove/wrist, will update with this when I get on my main machine. this is just in mspaint on the lappy! LOL!)

[MetallicaSepultura]

ok did the rest of the frames then:

q2gl.png

features recoil, flash and reload frames, with reinstated brown shade on one side (sorta ambient lighting I guess? it makes it look less mirrored and truth be told this brown shade featured heavily on a lot of the q2 weapons anyhow so I felt it should stay)
also version with hands because why not? (hands not yet shaded between gun and glove/wrist, will update with this when I get on my main machine. this is just in mspaint on the lappy! LOL!)

looks pretty cool