[Beta][Cool] \m/ ~={ DEMONSTEELE }=~ \m/ - 0.9 desu~

[Cryomundus]

Oh, another thing, how exactly do you use the charge attack with the freeze gun? I remember seeing it in the trailer, but I can't tell how I use that bit, none of the specials seem to work, and its not like triggering the Kamehameha.

[Viscra Maelstrom]

speaking of guns, are they only available in Zandro, or is there a setting you can change so they spawn in Zdoom, too?

[Cryomundus]

speaking of guns, are they only available in Zandro, or is there a setting you can change so they spawn in Zdoom, too?

There is, under options, there's an additional setting called Demonsteele options where you can toggle random spawning for the zand weapons, among other things.

[Captain J]

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looks like i just granted my wish by myself, also talking about the crosshair at the muzzle, only one is enough.

[TerminusEst13]

Oh, another thing, how exactly do you use the charge attack with the freeze gun? I remember seeing it in the trailer, but I can't tell how I use that bit, none of the specials seem to work, and its not like triggering the Kamehameha.

Hold down the alt-fire to charge it up. Same thing with Legion, to stack multiple to throw all at once.

[fukenciojones]

this is byoutiful

its like if platinum made doom, its just perfect

[Cryomundus]

Oh, another thing, how exactly do you use the charge attack with the freeze gun? I remember seeing it in the trailer, but I can't tell how I use that bit, none of the specials seem to work, and its not like triggering the Kamehameha.

Hold down the alt-fire to charge it up. Same thing with Legion, to stack multiple to throw all at once.

Holding down alt-fire for the legion works(plays a sound and loads another knife), but not for the freeze gun (from the trailer I know its supposed to do a the metroid-esque charge). I just fire once, no charge animation, and then its back to the ready stance.

[xenoxols]

I know that this has already been suggested, but you should really add combos. You could easily do it like your heretic melee experiment.

[mumblemumble]

Love the mod, and congrats on the cacoward. I do want to mention something about the sheath, it seems that you cant change guns while using it until the sword is back in the sheath. This makes item juggling from guns to the sheath to block a giant pain. Also, are you ever planning to make combinations for the super moves? Perhaps starting with the projectile blades pause, then combining it with others for a sort of gesture combination for different effects?

[fukenciojones]

Two thing i would like to ask

Will you add air combos like on devil may cry ? because right now you have a upslash that lifts the enemy but you cant do an aircombo because you just fall to the ground immedietly

also, a non-midi music pack maybe :3 ?

[Captain J]

also, a non-midi music pack maybe :3 ?

possible, but that addon would have A LOT OF memories if every musics are full-soundtrack.

[Viscra Maelstrom]

that depends on what the non-MIDI music pack would contain. if you're talking about actual MP3s or OGGs from bands like Megadeth, Slayer, Iron Maiden etc., then that's prooobably a no-no. you could scour the web for module metal music, maybe, but that could take a while. additionally, you could make a music pack yourself that fits with the mod's atmosphere. then you could take whatever music you wanted, provided you don't try to release it unless that'd be an okay thing to do.

[ShiftyAxel]

Fantastic stuff. Character action is by far my favourite genre, and thoughts of such a mod for doom have been in my head for a while. That said, I never thought it would actually be feasible. Excellent work, Term!

I'm super impressed with the technical chops behind this. If you'd told me that you could do sick stuff like this back when I used to toy around with DECORATE, I'd have called you crazy. So crazy in fact, that it's convinced me to get back into the Doom modding scene after a 4+ year hiatus (anyone remember the Demonizer morph system mod from back in the day? No? Eh, tough crowd..)- I couldn't resist cracking open the PK3 to see how the magic works, and before long a copy of ACC had whisked it's way onto my drive and started out cranking out test builds.

I have to say though, the ACS code style therein is... unique. SlashingLikeAGaijin indeed

Will you add air combos like on devil may cry ? because right now you have a upslash that lifts the enemy but you cant do an aircombo because you just fall to the ground immedietly

So I heard you guys like air combos. It just so happens that I've put together a mod for the mod that might just scratch that itch. The pull requests are in the mail, but in the meantime here's a feature list and a modified PK3. Huzzah!

Demonsteele 0.74: Super Turbo Shifty Edition
Features and Whatnot

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Shortened startup and cooldown on sword's charged launcher

• Easier to consistently launch enemies
• Initiating air combat is now much easier
• More feasible to combo into slashes or gunfire

Sword's charged launcher no longer moves you forward

• Allows for easier and more consistent neutral jump into air combo

Rejigged enemy launch states to use standard (non-low) gravity

• Considerably more control over how high the enemy goes
• Currently set to the height of a single player jump
• No more waiting for the target to float down from the ceiling before continuing your combo

Enemies no longer fly backwards slightly when launched

• Previously they would fly backward relative to their current facing, rather than away from the player
• Disabled to promote more consistent behaviour

Launcher can now hit multiple enemies simultaneously thanks to the RIPPER flag

• A bit situational, but both hype AND useful for crowd control!

Added DMC-style jump maneuverability

• Can now change movement direction on a dime with each jump
• Doesn't trigger during launcher charge/execution to prevent air chase failure

Added DMC-style aerial float behaviour to all weapons

• Attacking while in the air will cause you to float upward slightly
• Amount of float depends on weapon power/fire rate
• Also stops your horizontal momentum so you don't fly past the enemy when trying to initiate air combat
• Allows you to maintain the same height as your target with ease

Increased damage hitbox size for standard slashes + launcher

• More lenient, less likely to miss when things get super frantic
• Makes more sense to me, since swords traditionally slash in an arc rather than hitscanning

Rewrote special attacks to trigger via custom key + direction

• Double tapping was triggering by accident way too often through launcher charging + twitchy WASD
• No longer an issue, both the specials and launcher are now both easier and more consistent to trigger
• Note that the custom key is not bound by default, you'll have to do that in the options menu

Significant upgrades to the dash

• 5 added frames of velocity damping cause it to come to a halt like a traditional character action dodge move
• More precise and controllable, won't blast you off at unmanageable speeds
• Cooldown reduced to compensate for covering less distance
• Clearly defined start and end points make iframes much easier to judge
• Added Bayonetta-style dash limit with a cooldown penalty to prevent imbalance
• Pressing run + no direction will now dash forward

An option to make mod enemies drop souls upon death by gun

• Controlled by ds_gunsouls server CVAR and set to false by default, since it's a pretty subjective thing
• Personally, I felt that restricting meter build to melee kills was too limiting. Accidentally getting the last hit with a gun during a juggle combo, etc.
• Not to mention that the meter is a bit stingy anyway

Download
Demonsteele 0.74: Super Turbo Shifty Edition (Dropbox)

[TerminusEst13]

Holding down alt-fire for the legion works(plays a sound and loads another knife), but not for the freeze gun (from the trailer I know its supposed to do a the metroid-esque charge). I just fire once, no charge animation, and then its back to the ready stance.

I...have no clue what's going on with that, then. There's no logical reason as to why the charge shouldn't be working, especially if the Legion works. They use pretty much the exact same charging system. I've checked a few other people on the server and it's working fine for them, too, so whatever's happening...well, it's a mystery.
Sorry, mate.

I know that this has already been suggested, but you should really add combos. You could easily do it like your heretic melee experiment.

The more I've played with dial-a-combo systems, like with Zen Dynamics and Space Pirate, and the times I worked with it in Ranger and the melee experiment, the less fond I am of it. I don't like the lack of control the player has.
I'm not outright saying "no", considering I might fiddle with them again and suddenly really like it, but don't expect to see it for a while.

Love the mod, and congrats on the cacoward. I do want to mention something about the sheath, it seems that you cant change guns while using it until the sword is back in the sheath. This makes item juggling from guns to the sheath to block a giant pain. Also, are you ever planning to make combinations for the super moves? Perhaps starting with the projectile blades pause, then combining it with others for a sort of gesture combination for different effects?

Thank you! And I'll be sure to fix that, thanks for bringing it up.
Also I'm not sure what you mean by combinations for super moves. Can you elaborate, please?

Will you add air combos like on devil may cry ? because right now you have a upslash that lifts the enemy but you cant do an aircombo because you just fall to the ground immedietly
also, a non-midi music pack maybe :3 ?

1: Maybe. As mentioned before, I'm really not that familiar with DMC. For something as intricate as air combos, I'll need to do a little bit more than just watching videos--I'll need to actually play the games and take note of how the mechanics work OH WAIT HOW COINCIDENTAL THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON STEAM SALE
2: A definite "hell no" here. The music pack is going to be expanded to about 300 or 350 songs next update. Even if I somehow become a compression god and make everything only 1mb .ogg files, that's still a massive hefty 300/350 megabytes. Not to mention the inherent problem in spreading about copyrighted music for free. For the existing .ogg songs I either got permission for them or they were already distributed for free--for hundreds of other songs, it's gonna be a slight more difficult.
Sorry, mate. Like Viscra said, the best option will probably be your own music pack.

[Carbine Dioxide]

I like DMC3 the best, so here is a video of Virgil's weapon movements. I have been trying to mock up some Judgement Cut graphics, but I can't, for the life of me, do it.

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That's just awesome. Shifty Axel.