[WIP] Unnamed Gameplay Mod

[Ghastly_dragon]

Plus you should read this again. Eriance's giving permission to use the weapons since his mod is still far from an actual release.

There's also the matter of respect. Is it nice to use resources freshly made for an unreleased project in your own project?

[Xtyfe]

If he gave permission, I don't see how I'm "ripping off" anything. "ripping off" would suggest that i was claiming that I did them myself.

[KILLER2]

If he gave permission, I don't see how I'm "ripping off" anything. "ripping off" would suggest that i was claiming that I did them myself.

I still consider using such beautiful weapon sprites in a less-than-good mod a bad idea.

[Mikk-]

I still consider using such beautiful weapon sprites in a less-than-good mod a bad idea.

Less-than-good? How so? Have you played this mod, even though it's unreleased?

[Xtyfe]

indeed, it's unfinished.

[Hellser]

I still consider using such beautiful weapon sprites in a less-than-good mod a bad idea.

Generally, that is not a mindset you would like to keep on these forums. Also, Eriance doesn't give a flying crap turd about people using his sprites. Infact, I think he likes it as long as he gets credit. Hell, I even gave Xaser some credit because I used his DECORATE for my own weapons, albeit modified.

Xtyfe, keep up the good work. Seems like a nice big step.

[KILLER2]

I still consider using such beautiful weapon sprites in a less-than-good mod a bad idea.

Less-than-good? How so? Have you played this mod, even though it's unreleased?

First,I can't play anything without a download link.Second,I bet everything done here has been done before in wads like Brutal Doom,Beautiful Doom and the likes.

[Ethril]

Rocket Launcher changes:
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Uses the "Fire" damage type.

Shouldn't the rocket itself do Kinetic damage, and have the explosion itself inflict the Fire damage?

Also: Archviles that do rocket damage are totally unfair. That's basically saying "If you can't get to cover in time YOU DIE. NO SAVING THROW."

First,I can't play anything without a download link.Second,I bet everything done here has been done before in wads like Brutal Doom,Beautiful Doom and the likes.

What's your point?

[Hellser]

First,I can't play anything without a download link.Second,I bet everything done here has been done before in wads like Brutal Doom,Beautiful Doom and the likes.

.. and? The fun fact is, you named the more commonly known wads. Lets go back into the past with Wild Weasel's The Stranger. Maybe even more so with the DeHacked modifications. Oh, don't forget ICD-SE for the EDGE Source Port.

Your argument is invalid.

[Ryan Cordell]

Second,I bet everything done here has been done before in wads like Brutal Doom,Beautiful Doom and the likes.

I bet everything you bitched about is something nobody cares to listen to.

[Xtyfe]

Shouldn't the rocket itself do Kinetic damage, and have the explosion itself inflict the Fire damage?

Good point, If I have it spawn another actor that would act as the explosion when it hits something It should be able to do that.

Also: Archviles that do rocket damage are totally unfair. That's basically saying "If you can't get to cover in time YOU DIE. NO SAVING THROW."

Well, isn't that what people usually do anyways when they see one kind of the piss your pants scared type reaction. Hmm, I actually just had an idea on how I could change their attack up which might make it a little more fair.

[wildweasel]

First,I can't play anything without a download link.Second,I bet everything done here has been done before in wads like Brutal Doom,Beautiful Doom and the likes.

You are digging yourself such a hole that I'm amazed you can climb back out of it to say your piece. Just because a mod concept has been done before doesn't mean that someone else should not be allowed to do it themselves. Hell, there have been countless Wolfenstein-themed mods, but that didn't stop me from making Weasel Presents Nazis, did it? Just because Beautiful Doom existed before didn't stop Sergeant Mark IV from making Brutal Doom, et cetera.

As far as the "waaah, you ripped off Eriance's sprites" thing, if Eriance has already implied permission, what's the big deal? As long as the author of this mod makes sure to unambiguously give Eriance the credit for all these awesome sprites, there should be no conflict. Right?

[NeuralStunner]

[...] I bet everything done here has been done before [...]

This prevalent attitude is what keeps me continually on the brink of giving up modding (for the public) altogether. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

(Even worse when it does a complete turnabout and praises the latest "TC" which attempts to remake some other game on an engine that isn't suited for it.)

[DoomRater]

Hey guys, you ned to make guns that don't act like guns to be original these days. I mean seriously, guns that actually kill demons?

[Xtyfe]

[...] I bet everything done here has been done before [...]

This prevalent attitude is what keeps me continually on the brink of giving up modding (for the public) altogether. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I have seen this so many times on gaming mod forums, you can't give into this sort of thing. I care nothing for people who aren't mature enough to take part in them.