[ACS] ENTER and OPEN script variants

[Skippy]

How feasible is it to implement variants of OPEN and ENTER scripts that run EVERY time the level is loaded (ie from saved games AND player starts), instead of just the first time?

I've worked on a couple of mods where being able to display stats and info to the player upon reloading a save would have been most helpful, but no mechanism exists within the engine to allow this AFAIK.

[HotWax]

This sounds like a good idea. You could have a new script type called LOAD or LOADGAME, and maybe a matching one for saving (SAVE/SAVEGAME).

[Enjay]

and maybe a matching one for saving (SAVE/SAVEGAME).

And set it to kill the player whenever they try to save, thereby effectively allowing the request from the other thread...

[Ryan Cordell]

Boo. Hoo.

Honestly, many feature requests here can already be abused against the user, so this paranoia is completely dumbfounded.
That's why you can at least check the wads before you play.

[Graf Zahl]

A script that's run upon loading can be done.

A script that's run upon saving is out of the question, not only for the abuse mentioned here but also for technical reasons.

[Skippy]

The request was for the loading script only, so that is of no consequence as far as I'm concerned.

[Rachael]

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script 1 LOADGAME {
  print(s:"Trying to load your saved game, huh? I don't think so!");
  Thing_Destroy(playerTID,1);
  Thing_Damage(playerTID, 10000, 0); // just in case you have God mode.
}

Sarcasm aside, I do support this feature, even if it can be abused like I just pointed out.

[Enjay]

Indeed, it makes sense.

Ironically, however, if someone did implement a script such as posted above, it would be harder for an end user to circumvent compared to a mapinfo option for no saving.

[Gez]

^? isn't made significantly harder by this script, no.

[Rachael]

I think the LOADGAME block should be restricted - to only re-enable HUD items, or other uses that someone can think of. No variables that "track" the fact the game has just been loaded would be saved, and any other attempted functions would be blocked. The code would be audited by the loadgame code itself, so that you don't have to go through each and every ACS function to detect whether the game has just been loaded. Similar to the method used by the KEYCONF code, which checks each and every command and only allows certain commands to pass.

[Graf Zahl]

Not possible.

[edward850]

I think its like one of those things where you can abuse it, but as soon as you did, it would make your mod extremely unpopular. Under no circumstances would I think anybody would uses this to kill a player or anything that would dramatically change the game in any-way because you loaded your game.

[Surreal Doomer]

This sounds a lot like LOADACS.

[Skippy]

You sound a lot like you haven't actually read this thread.

[Surreal Doomer]

I fail. I missed the savegame part.