Healrange property

Post by **Ghastly** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:27 pm

I was playing Quake 2, and saw a medic revive a monster from quite a ways away (about 256 units) and wondered if it'd be possible to make a healrange property.

Though I don't think for a second that it'd be very popular, it would probably be as easy as meleerange to implement.

Post by **Ghastly** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:03 pm

Sorry for double-posting, but I had another thought. A MinHealChance property would balance HealRange out nicely, and would probably be as easy as MinMissileChance to implement, though I have no idea, in truth, how hard it would actually be since I don't know programming.

Post by **KeksDose** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:06 pm

This would be a bad ass feature. Would quite help making medics. So, count me in as "seconded"

Ichor · Post by **Ichor** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:40 pm

There's already something like that in Hexen called the Mystic Ambit Incant (an artifact used mainly in multiplayer). I'm sure this won't be hard at all to add, if it isn't in already.

Post by **Ryan Cordell** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:15 pm

Mystic Ambit Incant? Why does that sound oddly Harry Potterish..?

Anywho, I don't think I've EVER heard of SEEN that in Hexen.

Ichor · Post by **Ichor** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:07 pm

It's an artifact (a whitish scroll with a blue symbol on it) seen only in multiplayer, so it's likely that you've never seen it unless you played multiplayer or played a wadfile that included them in single player. If someone uses one, the user and any other player in the area would be affected, but the effects are different according to class. Fighters would gain a point of armor, clerics would gain a bit of health, and mages would get some blue mana, or green if the blue is already filled up. The affected radius is 255 units.

Snarboo · Post by **Snarboo** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:51 pm

I always wondered what that scroll was for. That explains the Player.HealRadiusType in the player definitions for Hexen. Now if only I could figure out what that golden egg does...

XutaWoo · Post by **XutaWoo** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:12 pm

I thought that golden egg was another Morph artifact. Isn't it the Morph Ovum from Heritec?

Post by **Kirby** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:29 am

XutaWoo wrote:I thought that golden egg was another Morph artifact. Isn't it the Morph Ovum from Heritec?

The morph ovum isn't gold, it's white. The golden one probably does something different o.O

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:19 am

It's just development garbage which in Hexen itself didn't do anything. But since it uses the same sprite name as the one in Heretic ZDoom uses it as such - even though the projectile and the chicken don't have any sprites defined.

Ichor · Post by **Ichor** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:36 am

Yeah, that gold egg is unused. My guess is they were going to bring the Morph Ovum over to Hexen, but decided to try something different, and didn't get around to removing the old sprites.

Post by **Ghastly** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:20 am

Can we get back to the original topic? I don't think it would be that abusable, since people can also make a 999 damage rapid-fire hitscan attack

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Also, I'm not sure this would be subject to Quake 2s bug where a medic would unsuccessfully continually try to heal something behind a wall, because monster don't try to attack a player from behind a wall.

Anakin S. · Post by **Anakin S.** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:05 am

It tried to revive monsters from behind walls? So that's why it became psychotic and kept on going through the revive motions and failing rather than attacking me. I agree that it would be useful to do a healrange ability. But doing something to make it avoid healing monsters behind walls is a definite must.

Post by **Ghastly** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:49 pm

I don't think that bug would happen in Doom due to the different methods the two games use. If there was a similar bug, though, the Doom monster would revive the monster from behind the wall successfully.

Marcus101RR · Post by **Marcus101RR** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:51 am

KeksDose wrote:This would be a bad ass feature. Would quite help making medics. So, count me in as "seconded"

Yeah i think there should be a action function you can use for monsters, and then it should also be friendly or non-friendly parameter too. So technically the medic should be able to heal you or any monsters that were on your side. Or it will resurrect any monster and make it friendly either way works.

I rather have it resurrect specific CLasses.